Talk:Javelin

Fire Javelin

I removed the erronous (sp?) Fire Javelin variant. The 10F is the "Fire Javelin". This is backed up by TRO 3025, page 16, 3rd column, 1st paragraph.CJ 01:43, 4 April 2008 (CDT)

I put it back and added page number citations in the two sources it comes from. --Scaletail 21:25, 4 April 2008 (CDT)

I appreciate that it has the proper designation as I dont have 3050U record sheets. as far as the fire javelin reference the 10F is the fire Javelin. The 'Mech is referenced as such in TRO 3025CJ 23:41, 5 April 2008 (CDT)

I have edited it to be accurate to the sources. I will quote these directly here in the discussion page so that we can be clear on what is and isnt a Fire Javelin.

• Technical Readout: 3025 (Dated 1987) states on pg. 16: "Known as the Fire Javelin it mounts two Diverse Optics Type 20 medium lasers in place of the SRM racks."
• Technical Readout: 3039 (Dated 2008) states on pg. 104: "Only one variation is widely used, the JVN-10F Fire Javelin, which replaces the Arowlites with four medium lasers and additional armor."
• Technical Readout: 3050 Upgrade (Dated 2007) states on pg. 18: "The second variant, a take on the so-called "Fire Javelin" appeared after the Clan War when many Javelins required major repairs"

The references above woudl indicate the 10F is the Fire Javelin, the later 3050U variant is based on the Fire Javelin but isnt the Fire Javelin. We do need to get the correct JVN number for this variant though as the original is the 10N.CJ 00:15, 6 April 2008 (CDT)

I found a 11N known as a Fire Javelin which would make both of us right. I need to verify the canonicity of the variant.CJ 00:22, 6 April 2008 (CDT)

I have corrected it to show both of the versions of the Fire Javelin that exist.CJ 00:29, 6 April 2008 (CDT)

It seems to me that Fire Javelin denotes any variant of the Javelin that exchanges its characteristic SRMs for lasers. It may originally even have been a slang word that was then adopted by the manufacturers when they created proper variants (as opposed to wild field refits) with such a configuration, i.e. the -10F. The -11D is also a Fire Javelin, by virtue of being a subvariant of the original -10F Fire Javelin. Frabby 03:48, 6 April 2008 (CDT)

The reason that it needed to be denoted as the "Fire Javelin" was because the -10N is the same designation as the base 3025 variant. Is the -11N designation in TRO:3039? --Scaletail 09:47, 6 April 2008 (CDT)

I had found 2 sources, cant find the second source now.....I will try to find another corroborating source.CJ 22:19, 6 April 2008 (CDT)