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Delete Pages 2021 IEdit

Hi Dmon,

Can you please delete this page: James Stroud‎. There are two, one from LC and another from FWL. I've created both and now I'm going to create a disambiguation page, but this one makes no sense to exist.--Pserratv (talk) 10:48, 12 January 2021 (EST)

Instead of deleting it I have set it up as a redirect to the disambiguation page. That ok with you?--Dmon (talk) 10:56, 12 January 2021 (EST)
Yes of course.--Pserratv (talk) 11:05, 12 January 2021 (EST)

Commercial linksEdit

Hi Dmon. Do you know if there is a policy regarding BT-related commercial links? This user added one Special:Contributions/GreenJAG and I didn't see anything with a quick search.--Cache (talk) 15:12, 18 January 2021 (EST)

Hey Cache, I noticed that myself and have to admit that I do not know, I am going to reverse the edit as a cautionary measure, but I intend to consult with the holdhands on the admin team.--Dmon (talk) 17:49, 18 January 2021 (EST)

How can I add you a random act of appreciation flag?Edit

Just that!--Pserratv (talk) 11:51, 18 February 2021 (EST)

You can find the codes here and if they already have a ribbon, copy paste the newer one over it.--Dmon (talk) 12:06, 18 February 2021 (EST)
Just realised, you giving it to me? Haha thank you brother! --Dmon (talk) 12:07, 18 February 2021 (EST)
Yes, I just did :).--Pserratv (talk) 05:35, 19 February 2021 (EST)

Image CategoriesEdit

Hi Dmon,

Do you know how the system maps are generated? All those images don't have a category and this makes the Uncategorized files not very useful as from the first 1000 thousand maybe 95% images as these ones. And I do not want to put them in a category as this might affect the "program" that generates them. Do you know who can help? Maybe when the image is generated it can be put in a category like "System Images". I'm asking more people, but do you have any idea?--Pserratv (talk) 04:20, 8 March 2021 (EST)

Sadly I have no idea how the images are generated beyond the fact that they have some kind of bot that apparently updates them. Nic is the best person to ask I think. I would love to know because there are several changes I would like to see put into place with the system images.--Dmon (talk) 06:13, 8 March 2021 (EST)
BattleTechWiki:Operation_Doneve#Feedback - just sayin'. ;) Frabby (talk) 09:10, 8 March 2021 (EST)

Spies and Assassins CategoryEdit

Hi Dmon,

Are you trying to remove the characters from this category because you feel it brings nothing and because we have no other category for a profession?--Pserratv (talk) 10:35, 9 March 2021 (EST)

Mostly because of the profession aspect as it goes against the grain of the rest of the wiki, but I confess I have always disliked the category in general as it is a bit vague.--Dmon (talk) 10:41, 9 March 2021 (EST)

Bug Mechs & Category:TechnologyEdit

To explain why I rolled back your edit and reinstated Category:Technology for this article, the Bug Mech concept exists in-universe (unlike Flashbulbs and Zombie Mechs which by contrast only exist in player parlance) and as such I reckon it does describe a BT technology aspect. Frabby (talk) 16:34, 14 March 2021 (EDT)

Adding Design Programs in Left MenuEdit

Do you think is worth adding a direct link the the design softwares? The pages I've been adding: Category:Battletech Design Software.--Pserratv (talk) 05:12, 22 March 2021 (EDT)

Delete Pages 2021 IIEdit

Hi Dmon,

Can you please delete these pages:

A request: Please also delete the associated Talk pages when deleting pages (I already did this for the above), otherwise we have orphaned Talk pages for deleted articles. Frabby (talk) 02:05, 24 March 2021 (EDT)

Kerensky's OrionEdit

I'm curious: Why did you remove the cover images from the gallery showing Kerensky's Orion? To wit, it sure seems to be the same 'Mech, marked with "01" and "AK" (the latter not visible on the LoT2 cover). Since all these images already exist on Sarna and are used in other contexts, I don't see why they shouldn't be put into this article. Frabby (talk) 09:11, 29 March 2021 (EDT)

I agree that it does appear to be the same 'Mech, the main reason I removed them is part of an ongoing debate between myself and Fredericmora about product covers being used in as many articles as humanly possible. Personally I am not a fan of posting the cover of a product unless the product is directly discussed in the article rather than just referenced. I am having limited success in convincing Fred to only use clean art instead of entire covers. He uploaded a clean version of the Fall from Glory art, I just need to go back in and wikifi it before re-adding it to the article. --Dmon (talk) 09:28, 29 March 2021 (EDT)
The funny part is this: I think the covers are way more informative and relevant, because they showcase that this 'Mech features on the covers of these products. The "clean" image, on the other hand, has no additional information value - and it is also, imho, in violation of the "no image repository" part of our Policy:Images. I don't feel particularly strong about the issue, but I have to say I gravitate to Fred's position on this one. :) Frabby (talk) 09:33, 29 March 2021 (EDT)
Interestingly the whole debate between me and Fred started about a year or so ago when I noticed that he was adding every product cover a 'Mech had ever been featured on into the 'Mech articles and I used the same the "no image repository" part of our Policy:Images as part of my reasoning against it! :-p
I can see the point of showcasing the fact that a certain 'Mech has been featured on a number of product cover, the Mad Cat, Atlas and Warhammer are going to end up with huge gallery sections. I favor a few good images that showcase the design, and in the case of the classic 'Mechs the various interpritations of them over the years.--Dmon (talk) 10:01, 29 March 2021 (EDT)
Sooo... where do we go from here? As an additional argument, we're talking about an individual 'Mech here, not a generic model. I think that could be an argument to keep the covers in the image gallery for Kerensky's Orion. As for generic 'Mech classes, I agree that we don't really need multiple images of Mad Cats, Atlases, Warhammers etc. at this time - though I actually have long-term plans for a gallery in that general direction: Original 1st/2nd Ed. cardboard image, TRO image, Reinforcements cardboard image, miniatures, and so on, to show the design's evolution. Frabby (talk) 10:54, 29 March 2021 (EDT)
Add a section that lists (not shows) products where said generic Mech was featured on the cover? Or just in the "notes".--Cache (talk) 13:43, 29 March 2021 (EDT)
I mulled over the ideas over night and my position has not really changed. I agree that individual 'Mechs should have a slightly different set of rules to the generic 'Mech articles but for me the only real weight the pro-covers debate has is that it adds emphasis on the importance of said individual 'Mech, but the fact that the 'Mech has its own article already makes that point.
Even listing the products a generic 'Mech has appeared on means that somebody going to have to and count said product appearances, and then ideally somebody else is going to have to go and double check the count and keep it updates as new products are released. It seems like a lot of work for what to me seems an incredibly esoteric factoid.--Dmon (talk) 07:52, 30 March 2021 (EDT)
I'm not convinced. :) Having an article doesn't in and of itself suggest the importance of an individual 'Mech. We're basically creating an article for every named individual 'Mech by now (and rightly so, since we've been doing this for spacecraft for years). So if and when that individual 'Mech has one or even several pictures, I think it's only natural to put them into the article. Mind you, I'm not suggesting uploading superfluous images for this purpose, but if the images are on Sarna already there is zero reason not to use them in the article. I believe there are very few cases with more than one image, and most will have none at all.
In the specific case of Theodore Kurita's Orion there's the added oddity that the Legends paint scheme (which we factcheckers didn't get as part of the factchecking manuscript) doesn't match the paint scheme described in the novel.
To wrap it up, I think we should restore the article on Kerensky's/Kurita's Orion to re-include the covers garllery, because it's an outlier case anyways. Frabby (talk) 07:52, 6 April 2021 (EDT)

Sean O'Reilly's illegitimate offspringEdit

Adding the bit about a House Humphreys branch in the Marian Hegemony I came across Sean O'Reilly's illegitimate children. You created articles for them naming them Trajan O'Reilly and Marcus O'Reilly. But we don't actually know their last name(s). Only their first names are given, and they are illegitimate and never mentioned again anywhere else as far as I can see. I researched this to find out if Trajan should be Trajan O'Reilly, Trajan Humphreys, or something else, but didn't find an answer. Or did I miss anything? Frabby (talk) 07:58, 6 April 2021 (EDT)

I admit that I did not really think about the fact the children may not have the surname of their father due to their status as illegitimate. As such no you have not missed anything, just me not thinking outside the western cultural norm of children having their fathers surname.--Dmon (talk) 11:14, 6 April 2021 (EDT)
When the father is not known, usualy thep kids get the mother's surnames. Illegitime children apply to this unless the mother is married (but the husband not the father), in which case they get the father's surname.--Pserratv (talk) 16:27, 9 April 2021 (EDT)

MechWarrior Personnel File Edit

I have 4 of them, do you want the pdfs?--Pserratv (talk) 16:29, 9 April 2021 (EDT)

Hey PS, I put a post in one of the BT groups on Facebook and was supplied with all 5, so do you want the one you are missing?--Dmon (talk) 06:44, 10 April 2021 (EDT)
I'm missing the lyran one. This would be great!--Pserratv (talk) 07:18, 10 April 2021 (EDT)
Send me your email on the BT forum and I will shoot it over.--Dmon (talk) 07:24, 10 April 2021 (EDT)
Done. And thanks!--Pserratv (talk) 13:32, 10 April 2021 (EDT)

ELH CroniclesEdit

Hi Dmon. (I posed this same question to MahiMahi): Have you seen this post regarding the ELH Chronicles? As of right now, everything on is not set in stone.--Cache (talk) 18:46, 14 April 2021 (EDT)

Hey Cache, yeah I have seen it, but when I created the Announced product tag I made sure to include the line "all information is subject to change until the product is released" so if anything does change I think we are safe. The most likely thing to change will be the release schedule.--Dmon (talk) 18:59, 14 April 2021 (EDT)

Template changeEdit

Hi Dmon,

After the last changes on template, all images are not appearing ok now. See: 1st Donegal Guards for example.--Pserratv (talk) 05:43, 15 April 2021 (EDT)

Reversed the change. It appeared to work on some articles but not others for some reason.--Dmon (talk) 06:00, 15 April 2021 (EDT)
In case you give this another shot, I wanted to point out that I have been setting image size to 150px because a significant number of unit insignias are taken from Camo Specs Online. Those images are only 150px. By setting a larger size in the articles, the enlarged images look bad, whereas a larger picture reduced to 150px still looks good. This article is a good example of enlargement looking bad: MechWarrior:_Vanguard--Cache (talk) 18:23, 15 April 2021 (EDT)
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