User talk:Dark Jaguar

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References

Hy Dark Jaguar, welcome to sarna, but please when you edit pages can you add references from which source the info comes, if you need help look at this Help:References or talk to me, thanks.--Doneve (talk) 14:15, 5 October 2013 (PDT)

Hi Sorry I was having problems with that, I have put them all in now. Thanks Dark Jaguar

No problem, i know of the problem when new users edit pages and dont know how we cite refes or refnotes.--Doneve (talk) 15:13, 5 October 2013 (PDT)

Formating

Hy again, take a look on the Griffin (Vessel) page how we handle the format of individual WarShips, i make some edits.--Doneve (talk) 15:20, 5 October 2013 (PDT)

Sorry, Updating pages now

The best way is, if you have questions, talk and we help you how we handle some thinks.--Doneve (talk) 15:32, 5 October 2013 (PDT)

Thanks you have been very helpful, I think I have the hang of it now :)

If I have any questions I'll be sure to ask

List of Ships by Class

Hi Dark Jaguar,
I like the work you're doing creating new WarShip articles here and fleshing out the Smoke Jaguar touman. I just wanted to mention that a couple of mistakes have crept in when you've been adding ships to the main WarShip articles; the articles reflect who the last known owner of a WarShip was. In the case of the Osis' Pride as an example, during the Wars of Reaving the Osis' Pride was encountered by the Ice Hellions and ended up an Ice Hellion possession. The Ice Hellion survivors then later merged into the Goliath Scorpions, leaving the Osis' Pride as a Goliath Scorpion WarShip - hence it's listing on the Potemkin page under the Goliath Scorpions. There were a huge number of changes to ship ownership in the Jihad and the Wars of Reaving, so it's worth checking the individual ship articles to see who the last listed owner is rather than adding a ship to the list twice.
Keep up the good work - I'm looking forward to learning more about some of the Smoke Jaguar ships. I'm not convinced that the Simas Osis isn't a mistake on the author's part - the writer has the Korat, Azov and Ripper escape the Inner Sphere with Delta Galaxy, has the Azov and Ripper being given battle orders, and then the Simas Osis suddenly pops up in the description of the battle having not been mentioned before. I'm wondering if it was an earlier name for one of the ships that got swapped in by mistake... BrokenMnemonic (talk) 03:25, 6 October 2013 (PDT)
ETA: Oh, I need to move your Ripper article from Ripper (Vessel) to Ripper (Vincent) because there's another WarShip out there with the name Ripper - a destroyer that fought in the battle that destroyed the Bolson Shipyards in the 1st Succession War - and as we know the class for the Smoke Jaguar WarShip, it's easier to move that one from (Vessel) to (Vincent). BrokenMnemonic (talk) 03:26, 6 October 2013 (PDT)

Thank you. I am inclined to agree regarding the Simas Osis, however it is a named vessel and as such (I think) deserves a reference and an attempt to explain the "mistake".

Great Start

I've noticed and really like all the pages you've added to and worked on, and think that you're getting off on a great start, so here is an all purpose award for all your hard work right out of the gate. These new articles you made barely need editing, and for that, you deserve this most. Keep up the good work!

P.S. An admin will have to set up your awards board for you. -BobTheZombie (talk) 06:11, 6 October 2013 (PDT)

Thank you, that's very kind Dark Jaguar

New Bios

I noticed the new biography articles you have been adding; they've been missing an overview at the top with the years (b. ???? - d. ????) and a short summary. See Morgan Kell for an example of what I mean. We strive for consistency here, and that one little thing can help make those articles better and more standardized. -BobTheZombie (talk) 18:05, 10 October 2013 (PDT)

I have added two Bios for minor characters the dates are not given in any source material I have seen. putting ???? just seems a little pointless - but if that's is the standard I will do it.Dark Jaguar

I understand where you are coming from... the purpose of that is to let people know that the years are missing and to add them if the info exists; you can also usually narrow down the millenia (3???) or the century (31??) to help vaguely describe it. -BobTheZombie (talk) 18:28, 10 October 2013 (PDT)

OK that's a fair point. I've changed the ones I have done now. Sorry I really am trying to follow the templates. Dark Jaguar

You're perfectly fine; there's a lot of things to remember when starting off, and you are doing a good job regardless. Editing here is a learning experience, so don't feel bad about that. Stay at it, and you'll be okay . -BobTheZombie (talk) 18:50, 10 October 2013 (PDT)

Thanks Dark Jaguar

And my motto is talk talk talk when some is unclear, i had hard teachers Revanche and Scaletail.--Doneve (talk) 19:40, 10 October 2013 (PDT)

Always happy to talk Dark Jaguar

Project Military Commands

Hy, when you add new military command articles can you added the project template to the talk page, look here BattleTechWiki:Project Military Commands.--Doneve (talk) 13:21, 17 October 2013 (PDT)

Yes I was just reading that and trying to figure out how find the talk page for a unit -- Dark Jaguar (talk) 13:23, 17 October 2013 (PDT)

sorted it now - Dark Jaguar (talk) 13:42, 17 October 2013 (PDT)

Paul Moon

Hi Dark Jaguar. This is part of the what Herb had said among the of the BattleChat Herb had done. He said the ending of Surrender Your Dreams was being subject to Retrocon due to the new direction the franchise is going with. Estiablly, Paul Moon's passing was during a time where arguably the Republic of the Sphere transformed and with Fidelis's help reclaimed the old Republic worlds and released the Fidelis from service. Upcoming IlClan sourcebook is suppose to clear up what happened detail. As for my changes, since herb as Line Developer said that Surrender Your Dream's last chapters were up in the air. Unfortunately (i don't like it either) ending of the book and future era is now in doubt. Here the Battlechat 20 April 2013 in Question regarding this Issue. -- (talk) 13:20, 19 October 2013 (PDT)

Anytime DJ. I hope your able keep up with whats going on. Though i'm not crazy about some of the changes, as long as CGL loves the game as much as we do. We'll have merry old time playing and read what happens with this game. Talk to you later! -- Wrangler (talk) 13:46, 19 October 2013 (PDT)

Source of logos

Hi Dark Jaguar, I'm amazed about the logos for the Clan Smoke Jaguar units. I have two question's:

1st - Can you tell me your source?

2nd - Can you provide us with all the missing logos for the galaxies?

Tnx and with best regards Neuling (talk) 14:28, 19 October 2013 (PDT)

Battle of Luthien

Hy, i think this links Category:Places and Geography of Luthien help you to add location links to the article.--Doneve (talk) 13:01, 27 October 2013 (PDT)

Hi, Yes you are right, that will improve it. I'll start to add them in. --Dark Jaguar (talk) 14:00, 27 October 2013 (PDT)

I've added geographic links and relevant pictures from the source book. I think is looking pretty good now. --Dark Jaguar (talk) 14:17, 29 October 2013 (PDT)

Yeah, i looks great with the pictures .--Doneve (talk) 14:49, 29 October 2013 (PDT)

Clan unit name issue

Good day sir, I noticed that some of the Clan unit articles are named strangely, e.g., 18th Assault (Clan Coyote); in this case, the logical name for it would be "18th Assault Cluster (Clan Coyote)". Do you think that should it be changed, or is there a reason for the current naming? -BobTheZombie (talk) 17:13, 30 October 2013 (PDT)

I had noticed this as well. A lot of the units are missing the word Cluster. The only one I feel that are not are the "Regulars" - I have not (as far as I an remember) seen a Regulars unit described as for example 18th Clan-name Regulars Cluster. --Dark Jaguar (talk) 12:11, 31 October 2013 (PDT)

I saw the official response, but I have to say to me it seems like part of the actual official name is missing. --Dark Jaguar (talk) 12:41, 31 October 2013 (PDT)

Yeah, I agree; it was just some OCD-like thinking on my part and I have other projects I need to work on. Maybe it can be brought up again later. -BobTheZombie (talk) 14:31, 31 October 2013 (PDT)

Guys - I see both of your points. To be honest, it bothered me as well when i joined the site. But since its become the standard practice, i'm okay with it. The word "Cluster" can be considered redundant. ClanWolverine101 (talk) 10:51, 2 November 2013 (PDT)

Plagiarism Concerns

DJ - Respectfully, huge portions of the content you added to the Battle of Luthien were plagiarised directly from the book. Please remove that material. Thank you. ClanWolverine101 (talk) 10:49, 2 November 2013 (PDT)