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Autocannon/DBAC 2/5
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Project No. 160 "K O R D" - Dual Barrel Autocannon Class.
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-- [[User:New user message|New user message]] ([[User talk:New user message|talk]]) 12:22, 25 January 2020 (EST)
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== §1 Dual Barrel Autocannon DBAC 2/5 ==
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                                            § 1 Dual Barrel Autocannon - DBAC 2/5.
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Background
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1.3. Industry and other capabilities incl. Military Of The Slavic Concordate. (Work inprogress, update is comming soon.)
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As it was for thousant of years Slavs were industrious and capable. So in no time were the newly established tribal settlements building new cities, mines, factories, manufactures. Soon enough were tribals capable of fielding Mechs an weaponry of domestic provenience. As well as purchasing civilian and military assets and equipment payed for by supplies of Titanium, Iron and other minerals.
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and other types of ore. Habitable planets were Terreformed and planting of crops a and forrest where possible were lying grounds for future production of food, light, heavy, electronics, medical and other manufacturing industries. New academies, houses and pallaces of science and education were established.
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To be continued...
  
 
Innovative independent line of research by young minds resulted in rediscovering once lost old Terran technology.
 
Innovative independent line of research by young minds resulted in rediscovering once lost old Terran technology.
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(For reference pls. see the existing dual barrel cannon GSh-30-2. Developed in Soviet union and still in use.
 
(For reference pls. see the existing dual barrel cannon GSh-30-2. Developed in Soviet union and still in use.
System is unique. Namely efficiency economy and simplicity of the design. As well as reputation of faultless operation. I am not allowed to leave link but this particular cannon is on wikipedia.)
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System is unique. Namely in efficiency economy and simplicity of the design. As well as reputation of faultless operation.)
  
In the years of the boom several newly established design bureaus worked on a unique idea of two barrels operating against each other. Taking advantage of recoil generated by powerful blast by cased ammunition for caliber AC 2 . Recoil seemed powerful enough that ordinary conventional system of recoil reduction resulted in massively overweight systems of existing models of autocannons. AC2, AC 5, AC 10, AC 20 and all subsequent improvements of this design prove unable to deal with the issue of excessive weight placing further strains on the chassis and gun operators. Heavy recoil of such powerful ammunition as is AC 5, AC 10 and almost impossible to control recoil of very powerful AC 20 caused that weight of those weapon systems reached unprecedented levels. Newly proposed solution to this was seemingly  idea of two barrels each absorbing the recoil of the tandem sister barrel...
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In the years of the boom several newly established design bureaus worked on a unigue idea of two barrels operating against each other. Taking advantage of recoil generated by powerful blast by cased ammunition for caliber AC 2 . Recoil seemed powerful enough that ordinary conventional system of recoil reduction resulted in massively ovewight systems of existing models of autocannons. AC2, AC 5, AC 10, AC 20 and all subsequent improvements of this design prove unable to deal with the issue of excessive weight placing further strains on the chassis and gun operators. Heavy recoil of such powerful ammunition as is AC 5, AC 10 and almost impossible to control recoil of very powerful AC 20 caused that weight of those weapon systems reached unprecedented lvls. Newly proposed solution to this was seemignly contraproductive idea of two barrels each absorbing the recoil of the tandem sister barrel...
  
Several prototypes were created and by firing number of experimental cased or caseless cartridges was established that careful managed recoil absorption can be powerful enough to extract, load and prime barrel moving synchronized exact opposite direction.
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Several prototypes were created and by firing number of experimental cased or caseless cartridges was established that careful managed recoil absorbtion can be powerful enough to extract, load and prime barrel moving synchronized exact opposite direction.
Further prototypes were developed and quickly pt to the test. after aprox. fifty thousand rounds put through the experimental prototype N.205. Designed and developed in Design Bureau of young designers Nikolay Mosin and Jaroslav Strnad. Supervised by none other that grand grand son of author of legendary assault rifle platform AMK 75 - Modernized variant of infantry automatic rifle platform system Korechkin. (His grand grand dad.) He, now some 75 years of age supervised already mentioned young team of Mosin/Strnad. Archibald Arkadiy Korechkin contributed by providing innovative new light weight feeding system from belt less box feeding container. Enabling continual faultless supply of ammo into a weapon capable of self destruction under its own unregulated ever increasing rate of fire !
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Further prototypes were developed and quickly pt to the test. after aprox fifty thousant rounds put through the experimental prototype N.205 Designed and developed in Design Bureau of young designers Nikolay Mosin and Jaroslav Strnad supervised by none other that grand grand son of author of legendary assault rifle platform AMK 75 - Modernized variant of infantry automatic rifle platform system Korechkin. (His grand grand dad.) He, now some 75 years of age supervised already mentioned young team of Mosin/Strnad. Archibald Arkadiy Korechkin contributed by providing innovative new light weight feeding system from belt less box feeding container. Enabling continual faultless supply of ammo into a weapon capable of self destruction under its own unregulated ever increasing rate of fire !
  
Autocannon itself is capable of firing burst of ammo in rapid ever increasing succession. When the first barrel reaches maximum forward position. Empty case from expended cartridge is already extracted and new cartridge is ready to be inserted into the chamber at the same moment when the second barrel in the most rear position starts to move forward. Therefore the cadency/rate of fire of such weapon is strictly speaking limited only by the speed of the barrel moving forward and backward under the force of the recoil. That caused several issues with loading and extraction as well as vibrations of firing weapon. Especially when the rate of fire had tendency to grow with the increasing length of the unregulated burst.  
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Autocannon itself is capable of firing burst of ammo in rapid ever increasing succession. When the first barrel reaches maximum forward position. Empty case from expended cartridge is already extracted and new cartridge is ready to be inserted into the chamber at the same moment when the second barrel in the most rear position starts to move forward. Therefore the cadency/rate of fire of such weapon is strictly speaking limited only by the speed of the barrel moving forward and backward under the force of the recoil. That caused several issues with loading and extraction as well as vibrations of firing weapon. Especially when the rate of fire had tendency to grow with the increasing lenght of the unregulated burst.  
 
RESOLUTION.
 
RESOLUTION.
The rate of fire has to be regulated !!! Especially when experimental piece Exp.N. 33 constructed in Mitischinsky Machinostroyniy Zavod (factory) N. 23 self destructed after exceeding perceived impossible rate of fire estimated as unbelievable 2100 rounds per minute.   
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The rate of fire had to be regulated !!! Especially when experimental piece Exp.N. 33 constructed in Mitischinsky Machinostroyniy Zavod (factory) N. 23 self destructed after exceeding percieved impossible rate of fire estimated as unbelievable 2100 rounds per minute.   
 
That incident showed the potential for damage to both soft and hard targets. And simultaneously gave the team of designers choices.  Fire selector was introduced into the trigger group together with massive muzzle break which is signature feature for this design.
 
That incident showed the potential for damage to both soft and hard targets. And simultaneously gave the team of designers choices.  Fire selector was introduced into the trigger group together with massive muzzle break which is signature feature for this design.
  
Hence Dual Barrel Autocannon with variable burst speed  DBAC 2/5. Caliber 2 and 5 was born.
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Hence Dual Barrel Autocannon with variable burst speed  DBAC 2/5. Calliber 2 and 5 was born.
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Here are the tactical technical data -TTD of DBAC 2/5:
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DBAC 2/5 Var2.
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Mass 5t.
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Heat 1
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Basic Dmg 2
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Regime of fire 1  2  3        JAMM rate of fire 1 crit                NONE
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Fire          1  2  3 rounds                    2 and 3 crit    2,3 = Jamm
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Heat          1  2  3                     
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DMG            2  4  6
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Crit. To HIt Roll 2D6            Unjamm Piloting skills + mod. +3 (Like RAC rule for unjamming.) 
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1 ton of Ammo: 40 rounds
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Range: Min/3 Short/8 Medium/16 Long/24
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Here are the Tactical Technical Data -TTD of DBAC 2/5:
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DBAC 2/5 var. 5
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Mass 7t.
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Heat 3
Mass 5 tons
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Basic Dmg 5
Heat 1 per Shot
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Regime of fire 1  2  3           JAMM rate of fire 1 crit              NONE
Basic Dmg 2
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Fire          1  2  3 rounds                     2 crit        2,3 = Jamm
Regime of fire 1  2  3 (1 single shot. 2 rounds burst. 3 rounds burst.)
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Heat          3  6   9                            3 crit    2,3,4,5 = Jamm
Fire          1  2  3 rounds of ammo.
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DMG            5  10 15
Heat          1  2  3                    
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Crit. To HIt Roll 2D6             Unjamm Piloting skills + 3 (Like RAC rule for unjamming.)   
DMG            2   4   6
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1 ton of Ammo: 15 rounds
Critical Slot: 3 (Ammo slot must be located directly next to the weapon slots.)
 
1 ton of Ammo: 45 rounds
 
Range: Min/3 Short/8 Medium/16 Long/24
 
                DMG allocation:
 
Each burst hits different Mech´s location.
 
2(3) bursts = 2(3) Hit allocation 2D6 rolls.
 
(See ´Mech hit location´ table.)
 
                Jamm/Unjamm Rules for DBAC 2.
 
  1. Regime of fire is declared.
 
2. To Hit Roll 2D6 - Upon determining Hit/Miss.
 
(This determines chances for malfunction.)
 
1 round  burst - NONE.
 
2 and 3 rounds burst - 2D6 Roll 2 and 3 indicates Weapon Jamms
 
To unjamm 2D6 Roll: Piloting skills + mod. +3 (Like RAC rule for unjamming.)   
 
  
                        DBAC 5
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Final weapon System Mosin/Strnad/Korechin was phenomenaly succesful.
Mass 7 tons
 
Heat 1 per Shot
 
Basic Dmg 5
 
Regime of fire 1  2  3 (1 single shot. 2 rounds burst. 3 rounds burst.)
 
Fire          1  2  3 rounds of ammo.
 
Heat          1  2  3                     
 
DMG            5  10  15
 
Critical Slot: 6 (Ammo slot must be located directly next to the weapon slots.)
 
1 ton of Ammo: 20 rounds
 
Range: Min/3 Short/6 Medium/12 Long/18
 
                DMG allocation:
 
Each burst hits different Mech´s location.
 
2(3) bursts = 2(3) Hit allocation 2D6 rolls.
 
(See ´Mech hit location´ table.)
 
                Jamm/Unjamm Rules for DBAC 5.
 
1. Regime of fire is declared.
 
2. To Hit Roll 2D6 - Upon determining Hit/Miss.
 
(This determines chances for malfunction.)
 
1 round  burst - NONE. 2(3) rounds burst - 2D6 Roll 2, 3 and 4 indicates Weapon Jamm.
 
To unjamm 2D6 Roll: Piloting skills + mod. +3 (Like RAC rule for unjamming.
 
  
Finally Project K O R D weapon system Mosin/Strnad/Korechin was phenomenally successful.
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New class of autocannons was created.  DUAL BARREL AUTOCANNON.
New class of autocannons was created.  DUAL BARREL AUTOCANNON. DBAC 2/5.
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In Short the DBA were quickly tested by SDF Slavic defence Force -Institute of Inonvations and Adaptations. And DBA 2/5 wascquickly recomended for fielding.
In Short the DBAC were quickly tested by SDF - Slavic Defence Forces - Institute of Innovations and Adaptations. And DBA 2/5 was quickly recommended for fielding.
 
  
                              Project No. 225 "L A N C E"
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As soon developement of DBAC 2/5 was succesfully closed. Order No. 225 High Caliber DBAC developement was issued.  
As soon development of DBAC 2/5 better known as Project KORD was successfully closed. Order No.225 Large Caliber DBAC development was issued.  
 
  
Plan was to adapt already effective and efficient system for higher calibers. Such DBAC 10, 20 and talk was about experimental subclass of heavy autocannon cal. 15.  All this effort was aimed to overcome the known weakness of magnetically and electromagnetically accelerated ammunition. Direct variant of Gauss system of kinetic projectiles acceleration/propulsion.
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Plan was to adapt already effcetive and efficient system for higher calibers. Such DBAC 10, 20 and talk was about expermental subclass of heavy autocannons Caliber 15.  All this effort was aimed to overcome the known weakness of Magneticaly and electromagneticaly accelerated amunition. Direct variant of Gauss system of kynetic pojectiles acceleration/propulsion.
  
Work was assigned to another design bureau as the Mosin/Strnad/Korechkin was preoccupied with the finishing touches of implementation of program DBAC 2/5 now also known as Project K O R D.
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Work was assigned to another deisgn bureau as the Mosin/Strnad/Korechkin was preoccupied with the finishing touches of implementation of program DBAC 2/5 now also known as
As project KORD was a complete success. Sadly project LANCE had issues from the very start. Vibrations, current composite alloy despite greater percentage of Titanium, Vanadium, Chromium and other rare steel additives simply was not hard yet flexible at the same time. Vibrations not only caused deformities in the frame, but also caused that the system had to be recalibrated almost after every 10th or so round sent through this increasingly unreliable weapon system.
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Project K O R D.
Vibration and microscopical cracks + additional ware and deformities forced to use increasingly thicker thus heavier parts.  Accuracy also became an issue. As vibrations grew stronger with the caliber, so did the over all mass. Simultaneously reliability went down almost exponentially. Several weapons disintegrated after only 4000 rounds and when some staff got hurt during the net catastrophic malfunction. Bureau chief asked Academic Shipunov for assistance.
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This time Project L A N C E. As Project Kord was a complete succes. Sadly project Lance had issues from the beggining. Vibrations, current compozite aloy despite greater prcentage of Ttitaneum, crmium and other rare steel aitives simply was not hards yet flexible at the same time. Vibrations not only caused deformite in the frame, but also caused that the systém had to b recalibrated almost after every 10th or so ound sent through this weapon system.
Ans after aprox. three weeks over the drawing board. The combined team sent letter to the chief of the SDF Slavic Defence Force - Institute of Innovations and Adaptations. Informing that weight to caliber ration is exponentially growing. Current steel and titanium alloys are not capable to support the weight and resist the vibration caused by firing such powerful ammo.
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Vibration and microscopical cracks + aditional ware nd deformities forced touse thicker thus heavier parts.  Accurancy also caused major concerns. As vibrations grew higher with the caliber, so di the over all mass. Simultaneously relayabilite went down almost exponentialy .Seeral weapons desitegrated after only 4000 rounds and when some staff got hurt during the net catastrophic malfunction. Bureau chief asked Academic Shipunov for assistance.
Further development of Heavy DBAC 20 and it subclass 15 is therefore suspended until metallurgy reaches sufficient level of progress and deliver alloy capable to hold to specifications and requirements unique for this type of material abuse.
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Ans after aprox thre weeks over the drawing board. The combined team sent letter to the chief of the SDF Slavic defence Force - Institute of Inonvations and Adaptations. Infrming them that weigt to caliber ration is exponentialy groving. Current steel and Titaneum aloys are´nt capable to suport the weight and resist the vibration caused by firing such powerful ammo.
Hope was mutually shared when smaller caliber cartridge would be discussed.But to develop DBAC of caliber 7 or 8 is not promising any real advantage on the actual battlefield.
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Further developemend of Heavy DBAC 20 and it subclass 15 is therefore suspended until metalurgy reaches sufficient lvlv of progress and deliver alloyscapable to hold specifical requirements unique for this tyeof abuse.
In Summary Project LANCE was deemed unsuccessful. Due to number of technical issues unable to resolve with current level of metallurgy available.
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Hope and crtain lvl of promisse was mutualy shared when smaler caliber Cartridge waouldbe discussed.But to develop DBAC of caiber 7 or 8 is not promissing any real advantage on the actual battlefield.
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In Summary Projet Lance was deemed unsuccesful. Due to number of tehcnical issues unable to resolve with current lvl of metalurgy avalaible.
  
Also mentioning that by continuing development of similar large caliber Ballistic and Kinetic Weaponry may cause delay and resources allocation issues. Severely interfering with the research for miniaturization in the field of experimental optics. In another words - Lasers.  
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Also mentioning that by continuing developement of similar large caliber Balistic and Kynetic Weaponry may cause delay and resources isalocation into the research for mniaturisation inthe field of experimental optics.  
  
 
Yours Sincerely.
 
Yours Sincerely.
 
Academic Valeriy Shipunov, chief of  Academy of Theoretical and experimental science.
 
Academic Valeriy Shipunov, chief of  Academy of Theoretical and experimental science.
Stoyan Yakotych, Chief designer in Experimental Weaponry and Asymmetrical Warfare Bureau.
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Stoyan Jakotych, Chief designer Experimental Weaponry for Assimetrical Warfare Bureau.
 
 
== Fanon Wiki ==
 
 
 
Hey Jerry,
 
 
 
Not sure if you know but there is a specific [https://battletechfanon.fandom.com/wiki/BattleTech_Fanon_Wiki| BattleTech Fanon Wiki] where you can create your own stuff in a place away from the canon wiki.--[[User:Dmon|Dmon]] ([[User talk:Dmon|talk]]) 13:30, 26 January 2020 (EST)
 
 
 
Hi Dmon,
 
thanx for info. Truth to say I do not have clue what am I actually doing. Heck I do not even know how to properly answer your msg.
 
May I ask you for an advice and guidance? Please?
 
my email is JERRY1234@email.cz
 
or can you PM me ?
 
that is the best I can do at the moment.
 
all the best
 
jerry1234
 

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