Editing Talk:List of German BattleTech novels

== Reprints ==
Browsing through the largely incomplete Ulisses section at the bottom of the article and I realised that some of the entries appear to be reprints of the earlier (translated) editions from Heyne. If I am correct in this I think that we can trim them from the list and just make a note of it being later reprinted in the original entry. The reason for this being that as an english speaking BT fan I feel that the primary interest in this article is in the later German only novels with the translated novels being of very little interest and certainly not worth two entries.--[[User:Dmon|Dmon]] ([[User talk:Dmon|talk]]) 11:58, 28 August 2020 (EDT)
:Nope, the only reprints in the entire line were The Sword and the Dagger and the Warrior trilogy, both by FanPro. The bottom of the list seems like placeholders from another list, I haven't cleaned that section up yet. But the [[List of BattleTech print novels]] shows the original BT books published by FanPro and then Ulisses, in correct order. In that list, The Sword and the Dagger reprint would be FanPro #4 and the Warrior trilogy #7, 8, and 9. Not entirely sure how far they took the translation of the MWDA novel line, they stopped after Trial by Chaos I think. [[User:Frabby|Frabby]] ([[User talk:Frabby|talk]]) 15:00, 28 August 2020 (EDT)
::Is the list over on the main BT novel list upto date? There are a few names on this one that stand out as not being on the other one like [[Blakes Horror]] and [[In Blakes Namen]].--[[User:Dmon|Dmon]] ([[User talk:Dmon|talk]]) 15:46, 28 August 2020 (EDT)
:::The list is up to date, and from the looks of it Ulisses ceased publishing new original German novels after #35 (May 2018). It's a topic all of its own, but I think it's reasonably safe to assume none more will be forthcoming. As for Blake's Horror and In Blakes Namen, these are individual parts of Daniel "DarkISI" Isberner's novel ''[[Gejagt]]''. Prior to its print publication, it was published digitally as a six-part series and these are the titles of the third and fifth installment, respectively. See novel article for details. [[User:Frabby|Frabby]] ([[User talk:Frabby|talk]]) 05:01, 29 August 2020 (EDT)
::::Ah that explains the disparity--[[User:Dmon|Dmon]] ([[User talk:Dmon|talk]]) 12:24, 29 August 2020 (EDT)

==Sort by publisher?==
The "main article" ([[List of BattleTech novels]]) sorts by publisher first, then by line. By contrast, this article has three different sections of FanPro/Phoenix publications. I suggest we use master sections by publisher instead like in the other article. [[User:Frabby|Frabby]] ([[User talk:Frabby|talk]]) 01:14, 21 February 2021 (EST)

== Die Jäger covers, sources? ==

I am trying to update the edition info for Die Jäger in the Foreign-Language Editions section of [[The Hunters#Foreign-Language Editions|The Hunters]].  Searching [https://portal.dnb.de/opac/showFullRecord?currentResultId=Die+and+J%C3%A4ger+and+gressman%26any&currentPosition=1 Deutschen Nationalbibliothek] reveals an edition in 1999 but does not reveal a second edition in 2001.  Also it indicates that the cover reported here for the 2nd edition was for the 1999 edition.  Some other used book seller sites seem to confirm this (i.e., only reference a 1999 publication date but show [[:File:Die Jaeger 2nd-edition.jpg]] as the cover.  It is possible that some of these may be copying the stock images from others.  ([https://www.booklooker.de/app/detail.php?id=A02qtqZZ01ZZw&pid=3331297&t=4hrfkxmk52afmf3c One book seller] had the first cover but gave 1997 (the original English publication date) as the publication date which seems to not be the publication date proper of the German translation itself.)

Everything thus far would seems to suggest that these may simply be alternative covers of the same edition or something not yet understood.  In any case, are there sources or documentation that would (1) confirm the existence of a 2001 edition and (2) the identity of the respective covers for 1999 and 2001? --[[User:Dude RB|Dude RB]] ([[User talk:Dude RB|talk]]) 20:56, 15 June 2022 (EDT)

:I don’t own a physical copy of this book. Fwiw, I checked Google Images, Amazon and Ebay and all images that seem to be photographed physical copies of the book have the Raven cover; the Summoner only appears as an image (as opposed to a photo of a physical object). [[User:Frabby|Frabby]] ([[User talk:Frabby|talk]]) 16:38, 16 June 2022 (EDT)

::Interesting obsevation.  I see what you mean.  In fact many of the Summoner images use a [https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51Vj2B9k32L._SX321_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg mock book form].  So one possibility is that the (mirrored) Summoner cover image was a pre-release announcement or some form of promotional cover image but the cover of the actual published product was the (mirrored) Raven.  This is simply one speculation of course.  --[[User:Dude RB|Dude RB]] ([[User talk:Dude RB|talk]]) 19:22, 16 June 2022 (EDT)
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 ::Interesting obsevation.  I see what you mean.  In fact many of the Summoner images use a [https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51Vj2B9k32L._SX321_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg mock book form].  So one possibility is that the (mirrored) Summoner cover image was a pre-release announcement or some form of promotional cover image but the cover of the actual published product was the (mirrored) Raven.  This is simply one speculation of course.  --[[User:Dude RB|Dude RB]] ([[User talk:Dude RB|talk]]) 19:22, 16 June 2022 (EDT)
-== Gezeiten der Macht covers ==
-Another interesting cover matter.  One image commonly posted for the cover of ''Gezeiten der Macht'' is [https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51OZ8WeE-1L._SX321_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg], which is nearly a duplicate of [[:File:Die Natur des Kriegers.jpg]].  This differs from our posted cover, which is [[:File:Gezeiten_der_Macht.jpg]].  The cover we list (the Guillotine and duo Catapult cover) occurs in print/physical form as can be seen [https://www.booklooker.de/app/detail.php?id=A02qemGn01ZZW&pid=3331297&t=arfsx3r5wf8x8s5w here].  --[[User:Dude RB|Dude RB]] ([[User talk:Dude RB|talk]]) 20:22, 16 June 2022 (EDT)