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Line 44: Assuming the resources of an entire planet basically dedicated to Aerospace could not restart the engines, the next best thing is to strip it to the bulkheads, and take detailed notes on the rest. It's too big to move in one piece, but that is a problem for another day, Taurians have parts, schematics, and a great deal of motivation. {{unsigned|Thauron}} Assuming the resources of an entire planet basically dedicated to Aerospace could not restart the engines, the next best thing is to strip it to the bulkheads, and take detailed notes on the rest. It's too big to move in one piece, but that is a problem for another day, Taurians have parts, schematics, and a great deal of motivation. {{unsigned|Thauron}} − − :The article depicts the affair as it was described in the only source that gives any details at all. Given that it's a ComStar document, it is obvious that bias, errors, or outright misinformation may be included but that goes without saying. :The article depicts the affair as it was described in the only source that gives any details at all. Given that it's a ComStar document, it is obvious that bias, errors, or outright misinformation may be included but that goes without saying. :I can find a viable explanation for each and every point you raise. Real-time two-way HPG communication is possible, we've seen it in novels. It is plausible that ComStar would be able to pull this off, or at least transmit sphere-wide within minutes, for internal priority communication. They also likely possessed spaceborne HPGs on some of their DropShips or JumpShips. And they could easily arrange for long-range command circuit transport in a pinch. (There is ample evidence that ComStar possessed a ''massive'' civilian transport fleet on par with or surpassing any Successor State, sailing under both ComStar registry and also in the form of various shipping enterprises subsidized by ComStar.) Unless a story focusing on the Tripitz Affair is released that tells the "real story" in novel fiction style, we'll only ever know what we've been told so far, from a possibly biased in-universe source. Not very likely, but certainly possible. [[User:Frabby|Frabby]] ([[User talk:Frabby|talk]]) 07:25, 30 March 2017 (EDT) :I can find a viable explanation for each and every point you raise. Real-time two-way HPG communication is possible, we've seen it in novels. It is plausible that ComStar would be able to pull this off, or at least transmit sphere-wide within minutes, for internal priority communication. They also likely possessed spaceborne HPGs on some of their DropShips or JumpShips. And they could easily arrange for long-range command circuit transport in a pinch. (There is ample evidence that ComStar possessed a ''massive'' civilian transport fleet on par with or surpassing any Successor State, sailing under both ComStar registry and also in the form of various shipping enterprises subsidized by ComStar.) Unless a story focusing on the Tripitz Affair is released that tells the "real story" in novel fiction style, we'll only ever know what we've been told so far, from a possibly biased in-universe source. Not very likely, but certainly possible. [[User:Frabby|Frabby]] ([[User talk:Frabby|talk]]) 07:25, 30 March 2017 (EDT) − − − − Why wait for a Novel? − − On page 85 of the original Periphery book we read, "There are ''several'' large Taurian warships guarding the approaches to Brinton." (emphasis mine) − − Dated 3025, 46 years after "The Tripitz Affair," the earlier ComStar report implies that the Taurians have significant naval assets; add to that, in the Star League sourcebook, a ComStar report dated 3028, we read, on page 98, of "The Disappearing Battleship of Merope" which details a Black Lion, a vessel of the same class as the Tripitz, essentially disengaging and then reengaging a warship rated Null Signature System, ''on camera''. − − Merope is a Taurian world, occupied by the Federated Suns since the Reunification War. − − Delving further into the 3025 ComStar report, we read of rumors of a major find on Celeano, a world which lacks a ComStar presence and ''isn't found on any published map'', further we read that Ishtar, a planet named after the goddess of fertility and war, is entirely proscribed from ComStar. − − Then on this Wiki, itself, we read "the [New Vandenberg Taurian] Academy had dispersed bases and training fields scattered across New Vandenberg, including in the wildlife sanctuary of South Holme." − − So it's a wildlife sanctuary with a strong military presence, you know, to protect birds from poachers. − − Keep in mind The Taurians were preparing to go to war, with the whole of Star League, for the second time, in 2765; that war never happened and, since then, the Taurians have essentially done nothing. − − Which you may read to mean, "Enjoyed more than 250 years of relative peace and prosperity." − − − − What Frabby's rebuttel ignores is: Maskirovka was already planning something; which means that reliable, actionable intelligence made it's way to Sian well before Precentor ROM Karl Sims informed the First Circuit of the existence of The Tripitz. − − Reliable, actionable intelligence is not a few hazy pics with a spy camera, it's confirmation that The Tirpitz exists, is salvageable, and the whole thing is not a trap. The costs and risks of invading sovereign space and engaging the native military, using the greenest of green assets, are almost incalculable. − − We must infer, then, that Maskirovkian agents had already completed at least one mission at the highest level. − − Which means time. − − More than likely, Maskirovka concluded the same thing I've concluded: It's too late. − − Very possibly, they fed the information to ComStar, who took the bait. − − --[[User:Thauron|Thauron]] ([[User talk:Thauron|talk]]) 17:40, 30 March 2017 (EDT)
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Assuming the resources of an entire planet basically dedicated to Aerospace could not restart the engines, the next best thing is to strip it to the bulkheads, and take detailed notes on the rest. It's too big to move in one piece, but that is a problem for another day, Taurians have parts, schematics, and a great deal of motivation. {{unsigned|Thauron}} | Assuming the resources of an entire planet basically dedicated to Aerospace could not restart the engines, the next best thing is to strip it to the bulkheads, and take detailed notes on the rest. It's too big to move in one piece, but that is a problem for another day, Taurians have parts, schematics, and a great deal of motivation. {{unsigned|Thauron}} | ||
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:The article depicts the affair as it was described in the only source that gives any details at all. Given that it's a ComStar document, it is obvious that bias, errors, or outright misinformation may be included but that goes without saying. | :The article depicts the affair as it was described in the only source that gives any details at all. Given that it's a ComStar document, it is obvious that bias, errors, or outright misinformation may be included but that goes without saying. | ||
:I can find a viable explanation for each and every point you raise. Real-time two-way HPG communication is possible, we've seen it in novels. It is plausible that ComStar would be able to pull this off, or at least transmit sphere-wide within minutes, for internal priority communication. They also likely possessed spaceborne HPGs on some of their DropShips or JumpShips. And they could easily arrange for long-range command circuit transport in a pinch. (There is ample evidence that ComStar possessed a ''massive'' civilian transport fleet on par with or surpassing any Successor State, sailing under both ComStar registry and also in the form of various shipping enterprises subsidized by ComStar.) Unless a story focusing on the Tripitz Affair is released that tells the "real story" in novel fiction style, we'll only ever know what we've been told so far, from a possibly biased in-universe source. Not very likely, but certainly possible. [[User:Frabby|Frabby]] ([[User talk:Frabby|talk]]) 07:25, 30 March 2017 (EDT) | :I can find a viable explanation for each and every point you raise. Real-time two-way HPG communication is possible, we've seen it in novels. It is plausible that ComStar would be able to pull this off, or at least transmit sphere-wide within minutes, for internal priority communication. They also likely possessed spaceborne HPGs on some of their DropShips or JumpShips. And they could easily arrange for long-range command circuit transport in a pinch. (There is ample evidence that ComStar possessed a ''massive'' civilian transport fleet on par with or surpassing any Successor State, sailing under both ComStar registry and also in the form of various shipping enterprises subsidized by ComStar.) Unless a story focusing on the Tripitz Affair is released that tells the "real story" in novel fiction style, we'll only ever know what we've been told so far, from a possibly biased in-universe source. Not very likely, but certainly possible. [[User:Frabby|Frabby]] ([[User talk:Frabby|talk]]) 07:25, 30 March 2017 (EDT) | ||
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