Editing User talk:Adridos

{{Welcome|Adridos|}}

==Casual Edit Award==
Hi Adridos,<br>
You're doing good work correcting incorrect references, adding new referenced detail and expanding on articles. I think you've definitely earned your first Casual Edit Award: [[File:CE.jpg|Casual Edit Award, 1st ribbon]] - and I think you should keep an eye on the criteria for the various Edit Count Awards, because I have a feeling you're going to start earning those quickly!<br>
One thing I wanted to mention is that some of the references you're correcting look like they were in the wrong format originally, because they had the name of the sourcebook set up as a wikilink within the reference itself. That's not how references are generally done here - the sourcebooks are highlighted in the bibliography section as italicised links, but are just kept as italicised text within references. If when you're correcting references you happen to find any more that are set up as wikilinks, can you change them to the correct format please? It helps make the wiki look consistent.<br>
It's nice to have someone working on the more recent Capellan history detail - I've added a fair amount of detail relating to the various states in the pre-Age of War era that came together to form the Capellan Confederation and the various wars they were involved in, but there's loads of detail still to be added yet and I don't think anyone's taken a particular interest in the Confederation here on the wiki in a while.<br>
Last but not least - welcome to Sarna, it's always great to see a new editor diving in! [[User:BrokenMnemonic|BrokenMnemonic]] ([[User talk:BrokenMnemonic|talk]]) 00:16, 9 May 2013 (PDT)

Good evening and Thanks for the award, sir.

I've already started redoing those references to fix the link problem. The thing is, it's not that I got that information from the original author of said pages, but instead, the root of the problem is the [[Help:References]] page, which is probably a bit outdated, since it clearly indicates every reference should have a wikilink assigned to it if possible. I'll leave it to you to do decide if something should be done about it. 

Also, when we're at it, could I ask two questions?

Firstly, what should I do before I can add images from new material (I'm talking about XTRO: Succession Wars, vol.3) to corresponding pages? The text about the variants is there, but they all lack pictures, so I assume there are some copyright issues involved?

Secondly, I'm currently (as you have already noticed), trying to expand the wiki's library on the Capellan history and I've ran into a problem. The thing is, I want to write about CDF (Capellan Defense Force) created by Franco Liao which transformed itself into the modern CCAF. However, there is already a page about CDF that was created by Sun-Tzu centuries later and thus I have no idea how to proceed as they are two different organisations, whcih could technically have two separate pages, but both have the same name. Maybe adding some brackets behind the current/old one (whcih would in turn, screw up any links to it), or perhaps merging the information about the old CDF into the CCAF page?

Thanks for the answer in advance and have a good day.[[User:Adridos|Adridos]] ([[User talk:Adridos|talk]]) 06:52, 9 May 2013 (PDT)

:Hello Adridos!  You do good work, and I also extend a welcome to you.  I don't have an answer to your first question as I too have wondered about why some Images are present, and others are not.  But for your second question, I might suggest making a page and titling in  ~ Capellan Defense Force (Age of War Era) ~ then when you have completed it, we can also make a disambiguation page  for CDF, pointing out there there are two CDF's, with separate links to both.  

:This is just a basic idea, and perhaps one of he Admins can help refine this idea a bit more, but starting with a Capellan Defense Force (Age of War) would be a sound way to go, I think. [[User:Rebs|Rebs]] ([[User talk:Rebs|talk]]) 09:56, 9 May 2013 (PDT)

::Thanks Rebs. Altough currently, I'll have to look if I can find enough material as the subject was just briefly touched in the book and then it switches back to pre-chancellor times, so it will take a while until I get some info worth noting again.[[User:Adridos|Adridos]] ([[User talk:Adridos|talk]]) 10:13, 9 May 2013 (PDT)
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 Last but not least - welcome to Sarna, it's always great to see a new editor diving in! [[User:BrokenMnemonic|BrokenMnemonic]] ([[User talk:BrokenMnemonic|talk]]) 00:16, 9 May 2013 (PDT)
-:Good evening and Thanks for the award, sir.
+Good evening and Thanks for the award, sir.
-:I've already started redoing those references to fix the link problem. The thing is, it's not that I got that information from the original author of said pages, but instead, the root of the problem is the [[Help:References]] page, which is probably a bit outdated, since it clearly indicates every reference should have a wikilink assigned to it if possible. I'll leave it to you to do decide if something should be done about it.
+I've already started redoing those references to fix the link problem. The thing is, it's not that I got that information from the original author of said pages, but instead, the root of the problem is the [[Help:References]] page, which is probably a bit outdated, since it clearly indicates every reference should have a wikilink assigned to it if possible. I'll leave it to you to do decide if something should be done about it.
-:Also, when we're at it, could I ask two questions?
+Also, when we're at it, could I ask two questions?
-:Firstly, what should I do before I can add images from new material (I'm talking about XTRO: Succession Wars, vol.3) to corresponding pages? The text about the variants is there, but they all lack pictures, so I assume there are some copyright issues involved?
+Firstly, what should I do before I can add images from new material (I'm talking about XTRO: Succession Wars, vol.3) to corresponding pages? The text about the variants is there, but they all lack pictures, so I assume there are some copyright issues involved?
-:Secondly, I'm currently (as you have already noticed), trying to expand the wiki's library on the Capellan history and I've ran into a problem. The thing is, I want to write about CDF (Capellan Defense Force) created by Franco Liao which transformed itself into the modern CCAF. However, there is already a page about CDF that was created by Sun-Tzu centuries later and thus I have no idea how to proceed as they are two different organisations, whcih could technically have two separate pages, but both have the same name. Maybe adding some brackets behind the current/old one (whcih would in turn, screw up any links to it), or perhaps merging the information about the old CDF into the CCAF page?
+Secondly, I'm currently (as you have already noticed), trying to expand the wiki's library on the Capellan history and I've ran into a problem. The thing is, I want to write about CDF (Capellan Defense Force) created by Franco Liao which transformed itself into the modern CCAF. However, there is already a page about CDF that was created by Sun-Tzu centuries later and thus I have no idea how to proceed as they are two different organisations, whcih could technically have two separate pages, but both have the same name. Maybe adding some brackets behind the current/old one (whcih would in turn, screw up any links to it), or perhaps merging the information about the old CDF into the CCAF page?
-:Thanks for the answer in advance and have a good day.[[User:Adridos|Adridos]] ([[User talk:Adridos|talk]]) 06:52, 9 May 2013 (PDT)
+Thanks for the answer in advance and have a good day.[[User:Adridos|Adridos]] ([[User talk:Adridos|talk]]) 06:52, 9 May 2013 (PDT)
-::Hello Adridos!  You do good work, and I also extend a welcome to you.  I don't have an answer to your first question as I too have wondered about why some Images are present, and others are not.  But for your second question, I might suggest making a page and titling in  ~ Capellan Defense Force (Age of War Era) ~ then when you have completed it, we can also make a disambiguation page  for CDF, pointing out there there are two CDF's, with separate links to both.
+:Hello Adridos!  You do good work, and I also extend a welcome to you.  I don't have an answer to your first question as I too have wondered about why some Images are present, and others are not.  But for your second question, I might suggest making a page and titling in  ~ Capellan Defense Force (Age of War Era) ~ then when you have completed it, we can also make a disambiguation page  for CDF, pointing out there there are two CDF's, with separate links to both.
-::This is just a basic idea, and perhaps one of he Admins can help refine this idea a bit more, but starting with a Capellan Defense Force (Age of War) would be a sound way to go, I think. [[User:Rebs|Rebs]] ([[User talk:Rebs|talk]]) 09:56, 9 May 2013 (PDT)
+:This is just a basic idea, and perhaps one of he Admins can help refine this idea a bit more, but starting with a Capellan Defense Force (Age of War) would be a sound way to go, I think. [[User:Rebs|Rebs]] ([[User talk:Rebs|talk]]) 09:56, 9 May 2013 (PDT)
-:::Thanks Rebs. Altough currently, I'll have to look if I can find enough material as the subject was just briefly touched in the book and then it switches back to pre-chancellor times, so it will take a while until I get some info worth noting again.[[User:Adridos|Adridos]] ([[User talk:Adridos|talk]]) 10:13, 9 May 2013 (PDT)
+::Thanks Rebs. Altough currently, I'll have to look if I can find enough material as the subject was just briefly touched in the book and then it switches back to pre-chancellor times, so it will take a while until I get some info worth noting again.[[User:Adridos|Adridos]] ([[User talk:Adridos|talk]]) 10:13, 9 May 2013 (PDT)
-::::No problem.  Questions like these can be answered by just asking them (with new headings) on either our talk pages or here on yours.  People will check every edit made on the wiki via the recent changes page, some people do, anyway.  It's a matter of course to help ensure quality, so it's all good, ask away, and you are likely to get an answer if you bring your question to the right people.
-::::One more thought, then.  Could this be made into a small paragraph that could be inserted towards the beginning of the current CDF article, and listed as a possible traditional root by way of antecedent in Capellen history?  I would think likely so.  But again, this one for possible debate.  It could be asked on the talk page of the CDF article and would also get attention.  Anyway, welcome to Sarna.  These considerations are how we work.  Building consensus is many times a part of our process. [[User:Rebs|Rebs]] ([[User talk:Rebs|talk]]) 10:54, 9 May 2013 (PDT)
-::Hmm, I'll ask the mods about the References page - it seems something's awry.
-::Regarding the images, so long as you keep within the boundaries of [[Policy:Images]] you should be fine. [[User:Doneve|Doneve's]] the expert on images; I think the most likely reason for images not already being present in some of the articles is simply lack of time and people. Some 'Mechs already have multiple images established in galleries - the [[Thunderbolt]] is a good example of one that does. The organization of images is a little tricky; we can't host simple galleries of images because of the constraints on fair use - having the images just to show them is an infringement of copyright, but using them to contribute information to an article is fine. That's why even though there are some categories gathering images together, like the various "Works by {artist X}" categories, every image present should be in use somewhere in an article.
-::Lastly, regarding the CDF - is Franco Liao's CDF the predecessor to the CCAF? If it is, then the best thing to do is include it as an early history entry in the CCAF page, and to set up an otheruses tag linking both the CCAF and modern CDF articles together. I'm currently trying desperately to remember where I've seen that done before, but the articles all start to blur together after a while... [[User:BrokenMnemonic|BrokenMnemonic]] ([[User talk:BrokenMnemonic|talk]]) 11:05, 9 May 2013 (PDT)
-:::Okay. Thanks for the help guys, I'll go ask Doneve about those XTRO pictures and probably do the Franco Liao (it's quite interesting to see he has no entry so far being the founder of the nation...) and the CDF, info on which should be directly tied to him. [[User:Adridos|Adridos]] ([[User talk:Adridos|talk]]) 12:45, 9 May 2013 (PDT)
-::::Jumping in a few days late here, but I would agree with BM's approach to a potential CDF article. The CDF became the CCAF, so they are, in essence, the same body. The name may change, but an article on one should cover the other. I look forward to seeing the additions! --[[User:Scaletail|Scaletail]] ([[User talk:Scaletail|talk]]) 18:55, 13 May 2013 (PDT)
-:::::I'll have to disappoint you. After reading through the entire early history of the Confederation in both sourcebooks, there sadly never was a following mention of the CDF ever again. Not in Franco's biography, not in either progenitor states millitaries or the CCAF pages, so I think we will never get any more information on the matter. Thanks for the willingness to help, anyway. [[User:Adridos|Adridos]] ([[User talk:Adridos|talk]]) 07:06, 14 May 2013 (PDT)
-::::::It's relevant information, so even a one line note is warranted in the CCAF article, as well as in any bio of Franco Liao.  In that way at the very least, it should be recorded, as the information does have value and bearing on the subject. [[User:Rebs|Rebs]] ([[User talk:Rebs|talk]]) 11:28, 14 May 2013 (PDT)
-:::::::Well, I've already mentioned it in the article I wrote for Franco Liao, but the link is pointing at the new CDF, so it needs some redirecting/editting. I also added a mention about it into the CCAF page. [[User:Adridos|Adridos]] ([[User talk:Adridos|talk]]) 14:16, 14 May 2013 (PDT)
-== References - Updated help page ==
-Hi! Saw your comments about the Reference manual page being incorrect. Thanks for bringing that up. I've tweaked it so that it actually reflects how we use the references tag here on Sarna. Happy editing!--[[User:Mbear|Mbear]]<sup>([[User_talk:Mbear|talk]])</sup> 10:00, 7 June 2013 (PDT)
-==Images==
-Hy Adridos, thanks for uploading missing images, only one thing, when we know where the artist is, we add a category link, take a look on your uploaded [[:File:Rs-vol2-medium-mechs.jpg]], i added the category. Keep up your good work, with best wishes.--[[User:Doneve|Doneve]] ([[User talk:Doneve|talk]]) 11:08, 11 June 2013 (PDT)
-:Thanks for the notice. I'll try to stick with it when uploading new images. However, could I ask you one thing? I also updated the image of [[BattleTech_Record_Sheets_Volume_One:_Light_%27Mechs]] to a better resolution, but since it was my first image edit, I've created quite a mess. Is there any way I or you could delete the older revisions to save space? [[User:Adridos|Adridos]] ([[User talk:Adridos|talk]]) 11:13, 11 June 2013 (PDT)
-::Talk to an admin, [[User: Mbear|Mbear]] or [[User: Frabby|Frabby]], i don't have the permission to do delete images.--[[User:Doneve|Doneve]] ([[User talk:Doneve|talk]]) 11:17, 11 June 2013 (PDT)
-:::Thanks for the fast answer. Will do. [[User:Adridos|Adridos]] ([[User talk:Adridos|talk]]) 11:19, 11 June 2013 (PDT)
-::::As far as I know there is no way to delete the older revisions. This being a wiki, nothing is ever truly deleted. I'm not even sure if our Bureaucrat [[User:Nicjansma]] could delete them. But I wouldn't worry about a little storage space here. Btw, thanks for taking care of the missing images. Not quite sure how I could miss uploading them back when I created those articles. [[User:Frabby|Frabby]] ([[User talk:Frabby|talk]]) 11:53, 11 June 2013 (PDT)
-:::::Hmm, okay. I'll still wait for Mbear's answer, though. If it's not possible, then I'll just leave it be. Thanks for your insight. [[User:Adridos|Adridos]] ([[User talk:Adridos|talk]]) 12:01, 11 June 2013 (PDT)
-==Cataphract introduction year==
-Hi Adridos, I noted that the [[Cataphract]] article wrongly states 3050 as introduction year and saw you did that edit. I think you got confused by the MUL which seems to carry the 3 series (introduced in 3050) as baseline model. The earliest Cataphracts were introduced in 3025 however. [[User:Frabby|Frabby]] ([[User talk:Frabby|talk]]) 00:46, 27 January 2014 (PST)
-:Actually, said edit was there because of the fact the thumbnail is detailing the CTF-3D. It leads to a lot of confusion and all, but ultimately (especially with all the prototypes that have been brought up by Catalyst recently), it's probably for the better to use the most well known variant, not the very first one. You can either rewrite the whole thumbnail for the CTF-1X, the actual first production version of the mech, or leave it at 3050 for correctness, in my opinion. Leaving it as it is currently leaves some false information on the page, though. [[User:Adridos|Adridos]] ([[User talk:Adridos|talk]]) 16:04, 26 April 2014 (PDT)
-==MechWarrior 1==
-Just letting you know that I replied to your [[User_talk:Mbear#Mechwarrior_1|message to Mbear on his talkpage]] regarding MW 1 downloads. [[User:Frabby|Frabby]] ([[User talk:Frabby|talk]]) 05:36, 15 February 2018 (EST)