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Line 115: Browsing the deletion log I find myself laughing to hard at the now gone Capellan Warrior House Feng Shui. {{emoticon|:D}} [[User:Dark Jaguar|Dark Jaguar]] ([[User talk:Dark Jaguar|talk]]) 10:53, 5 July 2016 (PDT) Browsing the deletion log I find myself laughing to hard at the now gone Capellan Warrior House Feng Shui. {{emoticon|:D}} [[User:Dark Jaguar|Dark Jaguar]] ([[User talk:Dark Jaguar|talk]]) 10:53, 5 July 2016 (PDT) : Oh that's awesome! They should be real lol [[User:Buzzard|Buzzard]] ([[User talk:Buzzard|talk]]) 12:51, 20 June 2017 (EDT) : Oh that's awesome! They should be real lol [[User:Buzzard|Buzzard]] ([[User talk:Buzzard|talk]]) 12:51, 20 June 2017 (EDT) − ::Yeah their tactical placement of resources would be second to none! {{emoticon|:D}} - [[User:Dark Jaguar|Dark Jaguar]] ([[User talk:Dark Jaguar|talk]]) 15:06, 20 June 2017 (EDT) − : lol [[User:Buzzard|Buzzard]] ([[User talk:Buzzard|talk]]) 12:01, 27 June 2017 (EDT) == Clan Widowmaker Touman == == Clan Widowmaker Touman == Line 138:
Line 136: I've put together the Touman from the sources I can find, if anyone knows any other references please let me know. [[User:Dark Jaguar|Dark Jaguar]] ([[User talk:Dark Jaguar|talk]]) 05:48, 28 May 2017 (EDT) I've put together the Touman from the sources I can find, if anyone knows any other references please let me know. [[User:Dark Jaguar|Dark Jaguar]] ([[User talk:Dark Jaguar|talk]]) 05:48, 28 May 2017 (EDT) :Where did you find that? I didn't know they wrote anything about them? [[User:Buzzard|Buzzard]] ([[User talk:Buzzard|talk]]) 12:52, 20 June 2017 (EDT) :Where did you find that? I didn't know they wrote anything about them? [[User:Buzzard|Buzzard]] ([[User talk:Buzzard|talk]]) 12:52, 20 June 2017 (EDT) − :: There isn't much written, most of what is comes from a single BattleCorps story ''[[Betrayal of Ideals]]''. It's told from the Wolverine perspective which differs from many other sources, but is still canon. - [[User:Dark Jaguar|Dark Jaguar]] ([[User talk:Dark Jaguar|talk]]) 15:06, 20 June 2017 (EDT) == Award == == Award == Line 154:
Line 151: : You're welcome and thanks {{emoticon|:)}} - [[User:Dark Jaguar|Dark Jaguar]] ([[User talk:Dark Jaguar|talk]]) 14:47, 5 June 2017 (EDT) : You're welcome and thanks {{emoticon|:)}} - [[User:Dark Jaguar|Dark Jaguar]] ([[User talk:Dark Jaguar|talk]]) 14:47, 5 June 2017 (EDT) ::Oh and who are the "Horesmen"? You still need a lot of editing I see! {{emoticon|:D}} - [[User:Dark Jaguar|Dark Jaguar]] ([[User talk:Dark Jaguar|talk]]) 14:49, 5 June 2017 (EDT) ::Oh and who are the "Horesmen"? You still need a lot of editing I see! {{emoticon|:D}} - [[User:Dark Jaguar|Dark Jaguar]] ([[User talk:Dark Jaguar|talk]]) 14:49, 5 June 2017 (EDT) − : Cheeky! lol [[User:Buzzard|Buzzard]] ([[User talk:Buzzard|talk]]) == MechForce Germany 'Mechs == == MechForce Germany 'Mechs == I have two possibly three 'Mechs that I believe were produced by MFG exclusively. There was one called a Snake-Eye, a Nuke-EM (I think) and I believe that the Catapult K2 is also one of theirs. Does anyone have any information on MFG 'Mechs? - [[User:Dark Jaguar|Dark Jaguar]] ([[User talk:Dark Jaguar|talk]]) 18:54, 7 June 2017 (EDT) I have two possibly three 'Mechs that I believe were produced by MFG exclusively. There was one called a Snake-Eye, a Nuke-EM (I think) and I believe that the Catapult K2 is also one of theirs. Does anyone have any information on MFG 'Mechs? - [[User:Dark Jaguar|Dark Jaguar]] ([[User talk:Dark Jaguar|talk]]) 18:54, 7 June 2017 (EDT) − :Which [[MechForce Germany]] would that have been? I've never been a member, and I only have the complete [[Life Support (magazine)|Life Support]] magazine from the first and some Terra Post magazines from the third incarnation, but none from the second. Also, I'm not aware of any miniatures officially produced for MFG 'Mech designs, and have never heard of the Snake-Eye or Nuke-EM before. Off the top of my head I can only think of the ''[[Linesman]]'' and the ''[[Sidewinder (OmniMech)|Sidewinder]]'', neither of which has a miniature. + :Which [[MechForce Germany]] would that have been? I've never been a member, and I only have the complete [[Life Support]] magazine from the first and some Terra Post magazines from the third incarnation, but none from the second. Also, I'm not aware of any miniatures officially produced for MFG 'Mech designs, and have never heard of the Snake-Eye or Nuke-EM before. Off the top of my head I can only think of the ''[[Linesman]]'' and the ''[[Sidewinder]]'', neither of which has a miniature. :The CPLT-2K meanwhile is a standard, canonical ''Catapult'' variant from TRO:3025. Although extremely rare, it seems to be an extremely popular design in Germany and many German supporters of the upcoming HBS game discussed it on the HBS forum, putting this relatively obscure variant into the spotlight way more than it actually deserves from an in-universe viewpoint. The discussion turned out that the -K2, although mentioned in TRO:3025, was supposedly only produced from 3033 onwards according to the MUL which caused an outcry among the fans on the forum. Turns out CGL, after intense factchecking, had determined that available sources imply the -K2 variant had been completely extinct for a time until production resumed in the 3030s. Because of its populartiy, Todd "Sigil" Marshal put the German version into his ''[[Technical Readout: 3028]]'' as a different (if non-canonical) 'Mech. Fan research and lobbying later led to the MUL entry for the -K2 being corrected and its intro date changed. While this whole episode was apparently driven primarily by German fans, ultimately, the CPLT-K2 is a canonical variant. [[User:Frabby|Frabby]] ([[User talk:Frabby|talk]]) 06:15, 8 June 2017 (EDT) :The CPLT-2K meanwhile is a standard, canonical ''Catapult'' variant from TRO:3025. Although extremely rare, it seems to be an extremely popular design in Germany and many German supporters of the upcoming HBS game discussed it on the HBS forum, putting this relatively obscure variant into the spotlight way more than it actually deserves from an in-universe viewpoint. The discussion turned out that the -K2, although mentioned in TRO:3025, was supposedly only produced from 3033 onwards according to the MUL which caused an outcry among the fans on the forum. Turns out CGL, after intense factchecking, had determined that available sources imply the -K2 variant had been completely extinct for a time until production resumed in the 3030s. Because of its populartiy, Todd "Sigil" Marshal put the German version into his ''[[Technical Readout: 3028]]'' as a different (if non-canonical) 'Mech. Fan research and lobbying later led to the MUL entry for the -K2 being corrected and its intro date changed. While this whole episode was apparently driven primarily by German fans, ultimately, the CPLT-K2 is a canonical variant. [[User:Frabby|Frabby]] ([[User talk:Frabby|talk]]) 06:15, 8 June 2017 (EDT) :: I really liked the K2 variant as well, that's why I bought the figure. I got these in about 1999/2000 so not sure if it was the last of MFG2 or the start of MFG3. I had to order them from the MFG website at the time. The Snake-Eye was not a great casting, poorly defined on the main body in my opinion. It had legs in the style of a Mad Cat but not a direct copy of the part. The small weapon pods for arms looked like the PPC housings at the end of a Marauders arm. I think it was a light 'Mech, perhaps 35tons. The Nuke-Em has a definite JagerMech feel to it, but is topped with the radar dish from the Rifleman IIc - so pretty ugly! lol. I never used this 'Mech it was a real piece of Fanon with nuclear armed weaponry (hence the name). I just bought it for the "wierd" value. The K2 basically had Warhammer PPCs turned upside-down in place of the missile pods. Unfortunately I appear to have lost the download of their record sheets over the years. I have the sheets for the Sidewinder and the Lineman, they were published in MFUK Record Book 14. -- [[User:Dark Jaguar|Dark Jaguar]] ([[User talk:Dark Jaguar|talk]]) 13:40, 8 June 2017 (EDT) :: I really liked the K2 variant as well, that's why I bought the figure. I got these in about 1999/2000 so not sure if it was the last of MFG2 or the start of MFG3. I had to order them from the MFG website at the time. The Snake-Eye was not a great casting, poorly defined on the main body in my opinion. It had legs in the style of a Mad Cat but not a direct copy of the part. The small weapon pods for arms looked like the PPC housings at the end of a Marauders arm. I think it was a light 'Mech, perhaps 35tons. The Nuke-Em has a definite JagerMech feel to it, but is topped with the radar dish from the Rifleman IIc - so pretty ugly! lol. I never used this 'Mech it was a real piece of Fanon with nuclear armed weaponry (hence the name). I just bought it for the "wierd" value. The K2 basically had Warhammer PPCs turned upside-down in place of the missile pods. Unfortunately I appear to have lost the download of their record sheets over the years. I have the sheets for the Sidewinder and the Lineman, they were published in MFUK Record Book 14. -- [[User:Dark Jaguar|Dark Jaguar]] ([[User talk:Dark Jaguar|talk]]) 13:40, 8 June 2017 (EDT) Line 171:
Line 167: :::: In my opinion the section in page 75 is a mistake. The fact that it contradicts 3 different books makes the whole section suspect.[[User:Henryjones000|Henryjones000]] ([[User talk:Henryjones000|talk]]) 10:34, 17 June 2017 (EDT) :::: In my opinion the section in page 75 is a mistake. The fact that it contradicts 3 different books makes the whole section suspect.[[User:Henryjones000|Henryjones000]] ([[User talk:Henryjones000|talk]]) 10:34, 17 June 2017 (EDT) ::::: The Grenadiers are not reassigned to the CDF, the Capellan Reserves are simply renamed the CDF - it is just a name change. Same as the Grenadiers are just renamed the 1st CDF regiment in 3060. The parent organisation and component regiments are two separate levels of formation that appear to have a name change at separate times. There are real life examples of Formations being renamed and then the component regiments/battalions changed later. I don't see page 75 of FM:CC as contradicting anything, but what other books do you think it contradicts? The "new lease of life" mentioned for the Grenadiers is that they finally received new equipment that had been withheld for years. I'm sure a slightly ambiguous bit of writing in the page text could explain/gloss it over. But if you want a full explanation it might be a good idea to ask the writers in the BT forums. - [[User:Dark Jaguar|Dark Jaguar]] ([[User talk:Dark Jaguar|talk]]) 11:05, 17 June 2017 (EDT) ::::: The Grenadiers are not reassigned to the CDF, the Capellan Reserves are simply renamed the CDF - it is just a name change. Same as the Grenadiers are just renamed the 1st CDF regiment in 3060. The parent organisation and component regiments are two separate levels of formation that appear to have a name change at separate times. There are real life examples of Formations being renamed and then the component regiments/battalions changed later. I don't see page 75 of FM:CC as contradicting anything, but what other books do you think it contradicts? The "new lease of life" mentioned for the Grenadiers is that they finally received new equipment that had been withheld for years. I'm sure a slightly ambiguous bit of writing in the page text could explain/gloss it over. But if you want a full explanation it might be a good idea to ask the writers in the BT forums. - [[User:Dark Jaguar|Dark Jaguar]] ([[User talk:Dark Jaguar|talk]]) 11:05, 17 June 2017 (EDT) − :::::: I've been reading through FM:CC, and the text is somewhat ambiguous - I'd prefer to see an official Ask The Writer ruling for it - but it's not necessarily in conflict with itself. The Capellan Defense Force was the precursor to the CCAF (p. 9) and didn't become the CCAF until Warex Liao's reforms during the Star League era (p. 10) so there's already a need for a clarifying article explaining what the original CDF was. − :::::: Page 75 is explicit that the Capellan Defense Force name was reinvoked in the aftermath of the Fourth Succession War, but it refers to the "Capellan reserve regiments" being renamed, not the "Capellan Reserve" or "Capellan Reserves". The text under the New Sagan Armor Auxiliary (p. 76) indicates that the armoured regiment performed well in the St. Ives Conflict - something mentioned more generally about the performance of the Capellan Defense Force on page 75. The text on the Second Capellan Defense Force on page 77 specifies that it was "raised in separate pieces, expanding several Home Guard units to include a battalion of MechWarriors each. In 3060 these units were pulled together and trained as a Defense Force regiment." It also notes that the 121st Urban Defense Detachment is one of the "rare Home Guard units to be sent into frontline combat" - which indicates that other Home Guard units have also been exposed to frontline combat. − :::::: TPTB have been explicit in stating that Force Listings and tables generally only show BattleMech regiments because those are what's significant, and we know from various sources that there are a lot of conventional forces out there on planets and within the militaries that aren't important enough to merit listing in things like Field Reports and Field Manuals. The entries mentioned above indicate that Home Guard formations - which implicitly didn't have 'Mech forces prior to them being assigned to them - were being expanded to generate forces, and that Home Guard forces fought during both the conflicts in question. − :::::: My thoughts on this are that the Capellan reserves were renamed to the Capellan Defense Force prior to 3060, but that the forces renamed were conventional forces - including Home Guard forces - which is why they don't appear in any of the force listings. The Capellan Defense Force became a notable formation when it incorporated significant 'Mech forces, in the form of the front-line Grenadiers, as well as the mustering of the Second CDF, which incorporated Home Guard formations. The Capellan Defense Force could then have existed prior to 3060 as a conventional unit formation, before becoming a significant brigade when the Grenadiers became the First CDF Regiment in 3060 and the Second CDF Regiment was formed. I know that this interpretation hinges in large part on the distinction between reserves and Reserves, but it seems to me that the two brigades/formations were running in parallel up until 3060, and the CDF simply wasn't significant enough to be listed anywhere because it was conventional forces only (or conventional with minimal 'Mech forces, in keeping with all those Clan Invasion-era militias that showed up in the Clan Wolf/Clan Jade Falcon/Invading Clans books when they were getting stomped, but which had never appeared before). Does that make sense? [[User:BrokenMnemonic|BrokenMnemonic]] ([[User talk:BrokenMnemonic|talk]]) 03:50, 26 June 2017 (EDT) − :::::::That makes sense, thank you for your input [[User:BrokenMnemonic|Broken]] {{emoticon|:)}} - [[User:Dark Jaguar|Dark Jaguar]] ([[User talk:Dark Jaguar|talk]]) 18:51, 26 June 2017 (EDT) − :::::::::Wow guys I think this guy needs to say a big thank you for putting inyour time and effort to read through the relavent source books to help him out. I would have just gone with the info on page 75. I think a [[File:DA.jpg|Direction Appreciated Award, 1st ribbon]] is in order for the pair of you. Help finding the correct information does count as an editing issue, right? [[User:Buzzard|Buzzard]] ([[User talk:Buzzard|talk]]) 12:01, 27 June 2017 (EDT) − ::::::::::Thank you, all part of the service! Think you need to let Broken know on his page as well. - [[User:Dark Jaguar|Dark Jaguar]] ([[User talk:Dark Jaguar|talk]]) 04:03, 1 July 2017 (EDT) == Hey == == Hey == Line 183:
Line 172: Hey, how do you get those "editor" and "project" awards at the top of your page? I don't see them anywhere. [[User:Buzzard|Buzzard]] ([[User talk:Buzzard|talk]]) 12:50, 20 June 2017 (EDT) Hey, how do you get those "editor" and "project" awards at the top of your page? I don't see them anywhere. [[User:Buzzard|Buzzard]] ([[User talk:Buzzard|talk]]) 12:50, 20 June 2017 (EDT) : Also what does "actions" mean on this page? [[Special:ActiveUsers]] Is it number of edits or pages looked at or just clicks on the website? [[User:Buzzard|Buzzard]] ([[User talk:Buzzard|talk]]) 13:23, 20 June 2017 (EDT) : Also what does "actions" mean on this page? [[Special:ActiveUsers]] Is it number of edits or pages looked at or just clicks on the website? [[User:Buzzard|Buzzard]] ([[User talk:Buzzard|talk]]) 13:23, 20 June 2017 (EDT) − ::Those aren't awards so you won't find them on the awards page. They are Project bars for belonging to a particular Wiki-project, unfortunately most of these have fallen by the wayside it seems these days. You can still sign up though on the Project page. The editor bar is just that a little bit of fun really. They were made by one of the Admins [[User:Mbear|MBear]]. You can find them here - [[User:Mbear/MyImages]]. Just copy and paste. − ::The actions I believe are edits conducted over the last 30 days. - [[User:Dark Jaguar|Dark Jaguar]] ([[User talk:Dark Jaguar|talk]]) 15:06, 20 June 2017 (EDT) − : Thanks for the help. I like those, looks good on my page :-) Are you sure about the actions = edits thing? Because if so it says you have done 1000+ in the last 30 days! [[User:Buzzard|Buzzard]] ([[User talk:Buzzard|talk]]) 12:39, 26 June 2017 (EDT) − ::Yeah, sounds about right. I hit 7500 on 11 June and am now on 8000 ...I've had a bit of time on my hands/avoiding other chores ! {{emoticon|:D}} - [[User:Dark Jaguar|Dark Jaguar]] ([[User talk:Dark Jaguar|talk]]) 18:56, 26 June 2017 (EDT) − : Seriously! Wow, you need to get a life! lol. No seriously ... you do (joking) that's quite a bit of hard work. Makes my 4 look a bit pityful! Looking at the awards I surprised you don't have a casual edit award by now, so have one on me [[File:CE.jpg|Casual Edit Award, 1st ribbon]]. Looking at the criteria for that award how can people with 1000's of edits on the user-score page not have loads? Have I missed something? [[User:Buzzard|Buzzard]] ([[User talk:Buzzard|talk]]) 12:01, 27 June 2017 (EDT) − ::Thank you! {{emoticon|:)}} I agree this is an award that looks like it should be given out more, not sure what the reason or even if there are any for it being far rarer. If you look at the editors with the highest edit count (Doneve not included he deserves the founders version tbh) it comes out about 1 to 4000 edits, not exactly casual. - [[User:Dark Jaguar|Dark Jaguar]] ([[User talk:Dark Jaguar|talk]]) 04:03, 1 July 2017 (EDT) − − ==Images of individual spacecraft== − Please do not put generic images into articles about individual spacecraft. These articles should only show pictures specifically of the individual vessel in question, such as an image from a book or a photo of a miniature with an official paintjob (e. g. CamoSpecs). [[User:Frabby|Frabby]] ([[User talk:Frabby|talk]]) − :Okay fair enough I won't, but personally I think it gives the page a more professional look. - [[User:Dark Jaguar|Dark Jaguar]] ([[User talk:Dark Jaguar|talk]]) 16:05, 20 June 2017 (EDT) − ::Oh I do understand that sentiment. I even agree to a degree. But technically it's false information when you pass off a generic image as an image of the specific ship in question. And Sarna has caught too much flak for those small errors in the past. Especially on the HBS forum Sarna content is often treated as gospel - it's kinda funny when people try to prove some point to me by citing my own poorly written Sarna texts from years ago... But it's never funny to have a genuine misinformation shoved in your face. That's why I am so nitpicky about the issue. Hope you don't mind. [[User:Frabby|Frabby]] ([[User talk:Frabby|talk]]) 03:51, 21 June 2017 (EDT) − :::No worries, it's fine, I understand {{emoticon|:)}} - [[User:Dark Jaguar|Dark Jaguar]] ([[User talk:Dark Jaguar|talk]]) 13:04, 21 June 2017 (EDT) − − == Ice Hellions == − − [[Image:Clan Ice Hellion.jpg|left|75px]]The Ice Hellion Touman, every Galaxy and Cluster, has been updated to 3074 and the end of the Clan. The only reference missing from a few units is anything from [[Operation Ice Storm (novel)]]. So if anyone has a copy please let me know any information, thanks. - [[User:Dark Jaguar|Dark Jaguar]] ([[User talk:Dark Jaguar|talk]]) 05:16, 25 June 2017 (EDT) − − : I like the pictures :) [[User:Buzzard|Buzzard]] ([[User talk:Buzzard|talk]]) 12:00, 11 August 2017 (EDT) − − == Clan Coyote Touman == − − [[Image:Clan Coyote.jpg|left|75px]] The Clan Coyote Touman is now completely updated to 3085, including all Galaxies and Cluster pages. Please let me know if you think I missed something. - [[User:Dark Jaguar|Dark Jaguar]] ([[User talk:Dark Jaguar|talk]]) 08:05, 9 July 2017 (EDT) − − :: That is a lot of work! You need to get out more lol [[User:Buzzard|Buzzard]] ([[User talk:Buzzard|talk]]) 12:01, 11 August 2017 (EDT) − − == Spammers == − − Sitting here helplessly watching the spammers create their pointless pages, so frustrating! {{emoticon|:(}} - [[User:Dark Jaguar|Dark Jaguar]] ([[User talk:Dark Jaguar|talk]]) 18:15, 12 July 2017 (EDT) − − == Phantom Posts == − − How odd! I looked at the [[Special:UserScore|User Score]] page and noticed that some inactive users edit post numbers have gone up without them having posted in months .... very odd - [[User:Dark Jaguar|Dark Jaguar]] ([[User talk:Dark Jaguar|talk]]) 11:26, 29 July 2017 (EDT) − : I'm curious: how did you detect the change?--[[User:Revanche|Revanche]] <sup>([[User_talk:Revanche|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Revanche|contribs]])</sup> 14:55, 29 July 2017 (EDT) − :: It was Doneve's score at top of the list that gave it away. It was an odd number before and then was rounded up to 91300. It's hard not to notice a score as large as that! {{emoticon|:)}} - [[User:Dark Jaguar|Dark Jaguar]] ([[User talk:Dark Jaguar|talk]]) 17:23, 29 July 2017 (EDT) − :::You're right...that is odd. His number always tends to catch the eye, too. --[[User:Revanche|Revanche]] <sup>([[User_talk:Revanche|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Revanche|contribs]])</sup> 12:57, 30 July 2017 (EDT) − ::::His Count has gone down by 3 today, very odd! - [[User:Dark Jaguar|Dark Jaguar]] ([[User talk:Dark Jaguar|talk]]) 19:19, 11 August 2017 (EDT) − − == Clan Fire Mandrill and Clan Steel Viper == − − Finished both Clan updates of their Toumans, to the date of their destruction. I seem to have a thing for dead Clans {{emoticon|:D}} - [[User:Dark Jaguar|Dark Jaguar]] ([[User talk:Dark Jaguar|talk]]) 12:54, 30 July 2017 (EDT) − − == System Coordinates naming question == − − Dark Jaguar, I'm trying to get the band back together. Would you weigh in on [[BattleTechWiki_talk:System_coordinates#Re-engagement|this]], please? --[[User:Revanche|Revanche]] <sup>([[User_talk:Revanche|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Revanche|contribs]])</sup> 17:09, 2 August 2017 (EDT) − :Well I've got a full tank of gas, half a pack of cigarettes, it's dark out, and I'm wearing sunglasses .... hit it! - [[User:Dark Jaguar|Dark Jaguar]] ([[User talk:Dark Jaguar|talk]]) 13:59, 3 August 2017 (EDT) − :: Why am I suddenly thinking about effin' penguins?--[[User:Revanche|Revanche]] <sup>([[User_talk:Revanche|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Revanche|contribs]])</sup> 14:19, 3 August 2017 (EDT) − ::: lol {{emoticon|:D}} - [[User:Dark Jaguar|Dark Jaguar]] ([[User talk:Dark Jaguar|talk]]) 15:29, 3 August 2017 (EDT) − − == Image Categories == − − Hi Dark Jaguar, − − Do you know how the system maps are generated? All those images don't have a category and this makes the [https://www.sarna.net/wiki/Special:UncategorizedFiles Uncategorized files] not very useful as from the first 1000 thousand maybe 95% images as these ones. And I do not want to put them in a category as this might affect the "program" that generates them. Do you know who can help? Maybe when the image is generated it can be put in a category like "System Images". I'm asking more people, but do you have any idea?--[[User:Pserratv|Pserratv]] ([[User talk:Pserratv|talk]]) 10:40, 10 March 2021 (EST)
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Browsing the deletion log I find myself laughing to hard at the now gone Capellan Warrior House Feng Shui. {{emoticon|:D}} [[User:Dark Jaguar|Dark Jaguar]] ([[User talk:Dark Jaguar|talk]]) 10:53, 5 July 2016 (PDT) | Browsing the deletion log I find myself laughing to hard at the now gone Capellan Warrior House Feng Shui. {{emoticon|:D}} [[User:Dark Jaguar|Dark Jaguar]] ([[User talk:Dark Jaguar|talk]]) 10:53, 5 July 2016 (PDT) | ||
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I've put together the Touman from the sources I can find, if anyone knows any other references please let me know. [[User:Dark Jaguar|Dark Jaguar]] ([[User talk:Dark Jaguar|talk]]) 05:48, 28 May 2017 (EDT) | I've put together the Touman from the sources I can find, if anyone knows any other references please let me know. [[User:Dark Jaguar|Dark Jaguar]] ([[User talk:Dark Jaguar|talk]]) 05:48, 28 May 2017 (EDT) | ||
:Where did you find that? I didn't know they wrote anything about them? [[User:Buzzard|Buzzard]] ([[User talk:Buzzard|talk]]) 12:52, 20 June 2017 (EDT) | :Where did you find that? I didn't know they wrote anything about them? [[User:Buzzard|Buzzard]] ([[User talk:Buzzard|talk]]) 12:52, 20 June 2017 (EDT) | ||
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: You're welcome and thanks {{emoticon|:)}} - [[User:Dark Jaguar|Dark Jaguar]] ([[User talk:Dark Jaguar|talk]]) 14:47, 5 June 2017 (EDT) | : You're welcome and thanks {{emoticon|:)}} - [[User:Dark Jaguar|Dark Jaguar]] ([[User talk:Dark Jaguar|talk]]) 14:47, 5 June 2017 (EDT) | ||
::Oh and who are the "Horesmen"? You still need a lot of editing I see! {{emoticon|:D}} - [[User:Dark Jaguar|Dark Jaguar]] ([[User talk:Dark Jaguar|talk]]) 14:49, 5 June 2017 (EDT) | ::Oh and who are the "Horesmen"? You still need a lot of editing I see! {{emoticon|:D}} - [[User:Dark Jaguar|Dark Jaguar]] ([[User talk:Dark Jaguar|talk]]) 14:49, 5 June 2017 (EDT) | ||
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== MechForce Germany 'Mechs == | == MechForce Germany 'Mechs == | ||
I have two possibly three 'Mechs that I believe were produced by MFG exclusively. There was one called a Snake-Eye, a Nuke-EM (I think) and I believe that the Catapult K2 is also one of theirs. Does anyone have any information on MFG 'Mechs? - [[User:Dark Jaguar|Dark Jaguar]] ([[User talk:Dark Jaguar|talk]]) 18:54, 7 June 2017 (EDT) | I have two possibly three 'Mechs that I believe were produced by MFG exclusively. There was one called a Snake-Eye, a Nuke-EM (I think) and I believe that the Catapult K2 is also one of theirs. Does anyone have any information on MFG 'Mechs? - [[User:Dark Jaguar|Dark Jaguar]] ([[User talk:Dark Jaguar|talk]]) 18:54, 7 June 2017 (EDT) | ||
| − | :Which [[MechForce Germany]] would that have been? I've never been a member, and I only have the complete [[ | + | :Which [[MechForce Germany]] would that have been? I've never been a member, and I only have the complete [[Life Support]] magazine from the first and some Terra Post magazines from the third incarnation, but none from the second. Also, I'm not aware of any miniatures officially produced for MFG 'Mech designs, and have never heard of the Snake-Eye or Nuke-EM before. Off the top of my head I can only think of the ''[[Linesman]]'' and the ''[[Sidewinder]]'', neither of which has a miniature. |
:The CPLT-2K meanwhile is a standard, canonical ''Catapult'' variant from TRO:3025. Although extremely rare, it seems to be an extremely popular design in Germany and many German supporters of the upcoming HBS game discussed it on the HBS forum, putting this relatively obscure variant into the spotlight way more than it actually deserves from an in-universe viewpoint. The discussion turned out that the -K2, although mentioned in TRO:3025, was supposedly only produced from 3033 onwards according to the MUL which caused an outcry among the fans on the forum. Turns out CGL, after intense factchecking, had determined that available sources imply the -K2 variant had been completely extinct for a time until production resumed in the 3030s. Because of its populartiy, Todd "Sigil" Marshal put the German version into his ''[[Technical Readout: 3028]]'' as a different (if non-canonical) 'Mech. Fan research and lobbying later led to the MUL entry for the -K2 being corrected and its intro date changed. While this whole episode was apparently driven primarily by German fans, ultimately, the CPLT-K2 is a canonical variant. [[User:Frabby|Frabby]] ([[User talk:Frabby|talk]]) 06:15, 8 June 2017 (EDT) | :The CPLT-2K meanwhile is a standard, canonical ''Catapult'' variant from TRO:3025. Although extremely rare, it seems to be an extremely popular design in Germany and many German supporters of the upcoming HBS game discussed it on the HBS forum, putting this relatively obscure variant into the spotlight way more than it actually deserves from an in-universe viewpoint. The discussion turned out that the -K2, although mentioned in TRO:3025, was supposedly only produced from 3033 onwards according to the MUL which caused an outcry among the fans on the forum. Turns out CGL, after intense factchecking, had determined that available sources imply the -K2 variant had been completely extinct for a time until production resumed in the 3030s. Because of its populartiy, Todd "Sigil" Marshal put the German version into his ''[[Technical Readout: 3028]]'' as a different (if non-canonical) 'Mech. Fan research and lobbying later led to the MUL entry for the -K2 being corrected and its intro date changed. While this whole episode was apparently driven primarily by German fans, ultimately, the CPLT-K2 is a canonical variant. [[User:Frabby|Frabby]] ([[User talk:Frabby|talk]]) 06:15, 8 June 2017 (EDT) | ||
:: I really liked the K2 variant as well, that's why I bought the figure. I got these in about 1999/2000 so not sure if it was the last of MFG2 or the start of MFG3. I had to order them from the MFG website at the time. The Snake-Eye was not a great casting, poorly defined on the main body in my opinion. It had legs in the style of a Mad Cat but not a direct copy of the part. The small weapon pods for arms looked like the PPC housings at the end of a Marauders arm. I think it was a light 'Mech, perhaps 35tons. The Nuke-Em has a definite JagerMech feel to it, but is topped with the radar dish from the Rifleman IIc - so pretty ugly! lol. I never used this 'Mech it was a real piece of Fanon with nuclear armed weaponry (hence the name). I just bought it for the "wierd" value. The K2 basically had Warhammer PPCs turned upside-down in place of the missile pods. Unfortunately I appear to have lost the download of their record sheets over the years. I have the sheets for the Sidewinder and the Lineman, they were published in MFUK Record Book 14. -- [[User:Dark Jaguar|Dark Jaguar]] ([[User talk:Dark Jaguar|talk]]) 13:40, 8 June 2017 (EDT) | :: I really liked the K2 variant as well, that's why I bought the figure. I got these in about 1999/2000 so not sure if it was the last of MFG2 or the start of MFG3. I had to order them from the MFG website at the time. The Snake-Eye was not a great casting, poorly defined on the main body in my opinion. It had legs in the style of a Mad Cat but not a direct copy of the part. The small weapon pods for arms looked like the PPC housings at the end of a Marauders arm. I think it was a light 'Mech, perhaps 35tons. The Nuke-Em has a definite JagerMech feel to it, but is topped with the radar dish from the Rifleman IIc - so pretty ugly! lol. I never used this 'Mech it was a real piece of Fanon with nuclear armed weaponry (hence the name). I just bought it for the "wierd" value. The K2 basically had Warhammer PPCs turned upside-down in place of the missile pods. Unfortunately I appear to have lost the download of their record sheets over the years. I have the sheets for the Sidewinder and the Lineman, they were published in MFUK Record Book 14. -- [[User:Dark Jaguar|Dark Jaguar]] ([[User talk:Dark Jaguar|talk]]) 13:40, 8 June 2017 (EDT) | ||
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:::: In my opinion the section in page 75 is a mistake. The fact that it contradicts 3 different books makes the whole section suspect.[[User:Henryjones000|Henryjones000]] ([[User talk:Henryjones000|talk]]) 10:34, 17 June 2017 (EDT) | :::: In my opinion the section in page 75 is a mistake. The fact that it contradicts 3 different books makes the whole section suspect.[[User:Henryjones000|Henryjones000]] ([[User talk:Henryjones000|talk]]) 10:34, 17 June 2017 (EDT) | ||
::::: The Grenadiers are not reassigned to the CDF, the Capellan Reserves are simply renamed the CDF - it is just a name change. Same as the Grenadiers are just renamed the 1st CDF regiment in 3060. The parent organisation and component regiments are two separate levels of formation that appear to have a name change at separate times. There are real life examples of Formations being renamed and then the component regiments/battalions changed later. I don't see page 75 of FM:CC as contradicting anything, but what other books do you think it contradicts? The "new lease of life" mentioned for the Grenadiers is that they finally received new equipment that had been withheld for years. I'm sure a slightly ambiguous bit of writing in the page text could explain/gloss it over. But if you want a full explanation it might be a good idea to ask the writers in the BT forums. - [[User:Dark Jaguar|Dark Jaguar]] ([[User talk:Dark Jaguar|talk]]) 11:05, 17 June 2017 (EDT) | ::::: The Grenadiers are not reassigned to the CDF, the Capellan Reserves are simply renamed the CDF - it is just a name change. Same as the Grenadiers are just renamed the 1st CDF regiment in 3060. The parent organisation and component regiments are two separate levels of formation that appear to have a name change at separate times. There are real life examples of Formations being renamed and then the component regiments/battalions changed later. I don't see page 75 of FM:CC as contradicting anything, but what other books do you think it contradicts? The "new lease of life" mentioned for the Grenadiers is that they finally received new equipment that had been withheld for years. I'm sure a slightly ambiguous bit of writing in the page text could explain/gloss it over. But if you want a full explanation it might be a good idea to ask the writers in the BT forums. - [[User:Dark Jaguar|Dark Jaguar]] ([[User talk:Dark Jaguar|talk]]) 11:05, 17 June 2017 (EDT) | ||
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Hey, how do you get those "editor" and "project" awards at the top of your page? I don't see them anywhere. [[User:Buzzard|Buzzard]] ([[User talk:Buzzard|talk]]) 12:50, 20 June 2017 (EDT) | Hey, how do you get those "editor" and "project" awards at the top of your page? I don't see them anywhere. [[User:Buzzard|Buzzard]] ([[User talk:Buzzard|talk]]) 12:50, 20 June 2017 (EDT) | ||
: Also what does "actions" mean on this page? [[Special:ActiveUsers]] Is it number of edits or pages looked at or just clicks on the website? [[User:Buzzard|Buzzard]] ([[User talk:Buzzard|talk]]) 13:23, 20 June 2017 (EDT) | : Also what does "actions" mean on this page? [[Special:ActiveUsers]] Is it number of edits or pages looked at or just clicks on the website? [[User:Buzzard|Buzzard]] ([[User talk:Buzzard|talk]]) 13:23, 20 June 2017 (EDT) | ||
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