Category talk:Atrocities

Is this really necessary and a good idea? This sounds like something that's bound to degenerate into subjective opinions sooner or later, not to mention the shades of gray involved in determining why something like Kentares caused widespread outrage and the multiple nuclear attacks going on at the same time didn't. The page was created with subjective labels (vile act, terrorism, the word atrocity itself). That terrible things go on in the game isn't a question but the way this is being done seems guaranteed to cause trouble. --Moonsword 14:41, 25 August 2011 (UTC)

What to use instead then? They are not military operations, they are in many cases not covert operations. I will not keep them in the Events master category. If you have a better suggestion then speak up. --Neufeld 14:45, 25 August 2011 (UTC)

Leave them where they are unless you've got a good explanation of why things like the Kentares Massacre, the bio-attack on Galax, or the scouring of Galedon aren't "important events in the BattleTech storyline". At least two of them certainly were military actions, for that matter. It's a lot less likely to provoke a pointless debate over whether this action or another merited the label "atrocity" or whether this group or that group is engaged in terrorism. This has come up over on the CBT.com forums before and it was very contentious. If you are going to mess with it, find a label and description that's less likely to cause trouble. --Moonsword 14:52, 25 August 2011 (UTC)

To clarify something, what's in there right now isn't really an issue. But then you get into the question of why nuking Arcadia in the Crucis March isn't generally seen as an atrocity but just about everyone thinks what happened on Kentares was. The term itself is inflammatory in my experience and the definition is subjective from person to person. --Moonsword 14:58, 25 August 2011 (UTC)