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Line 5: ::I like this family tree, but I have a suggestion - this template is cool, but cumbersome to use. Rather than use this template on every character page, why not make separate, family tree pages entitled, for example, [[Steiner Geneology]] for all the Steiners (and Steiner-Davions), or [[Kurita tree]], or even place the tree on [[House Marik]]. Though these might be tremendously long and complicated trees, you would only need to make one per major family - I figure that would entail one for each of the major houses, one for each of the major periphery realms, several mercenary families, several supporting families, and of course, major Clan bloodines - as a conservative estimate, you could probably start with 30 family trees and cover nearly everyone important.--[[User:S.gage|S.gage]] 19:59, 10 July 2009 (UTC) ::I like this family tree, but I have a suggestion - this template is cool, but cumbersome to use. Rather than use this template on every character page, why not make separate, family tree pages entitled, for example, [[Steiner Geneology]] for all the Steiners (and Steiner-Davions), or [[Kurita tree]], or even place the tree on [[House Marik]]. Though these might be tremendously long and complicated trees, you would only need to make one per major family - I figure that would entail one for each of the major houses, one for each of the major periphery realms, several mercenary families, several supporting families, and of course, major Clan bloodines - as a conservative estimate, you could probably start with 30 family trees and cover nearly everyone important.--[[User:S.gage|S.gage]] 19:59, 10 July 2009 (UTC) − :::I think we should have both. I don't believe that most readers care who [[Hohiro Kurita II|Hohiro]]'s great-great-great-grandfather was, but [[Hanse Davion|Hanse]]'s familial relation to [[Michael Hasek-Davion]] ''is'' important to the storyline (see [[Hanse Davion#Family tree|family tree]]). A twenty-generation ancestry will be difficult to decipher and I think most entries should only focus on recent and relevant family members. --[[User:Ebakunin|Ebakunin]] 20:37, 10 July 2009 (UTC) + :::I think we should have both. I don't believe that most readers care who [[Hohiro Kurita II|Hohiro]]'s great-great-great-grandfather was, but [[Hanse Davion|Hanse]]'s familial relation to [[Michael Hasek-Davion]] ''is'' important to the storyline (see [[Hanse Davion#Family tree|family tree]]). A twenty-generation ancestry will be difficult to decipher and I think most entries should only focus on recent and relevant family members. {{ebakunin sig}} ::::DUDE!! That's awesome!!! Probably put 3 or 4 generations on the character pages and then a family page with everything? --[[User:Communibus locis|Communibus Locis]] ::::DUDE!! That's awesome!!! Probably put 3 or 4 generations on the character pages and then a family page with everything? --[[User:Communibus locis|Communibus Locis]] Line 44:
Line 44: :::Every person now has a three letter abbreviation, which when surrounded by one space on both sides guarantees that all the pipes are aligned. With all the pipes in order it becomes clear that each row has a different number of table cells, which can be easily fixed. Having an unequal number of table cells can be an issue in some older browsers. :::Every person now has a three letter abbreviation, which when surrounded by one space on both sides guarantees that all the pipes are aligned. With all the pipes in order it becomes clear that each row has a different number of table cells, which can be easily fixed. Having an unequal number of table cells can be an issue in some older browsers. − :::This template (which I swiped from Wikipedia) is a remarkable, and remarkably aggravating, piece of work. If you look at the underlying code the complexity is just insane. My hats off to you for tackling it. If you have any technical questions feel free to ask away on my talk page. Thanks a lot. --[[User:Ebakunin|Ebakunin]] 04:04, 11 July 2009 (UTC) + :::This template (which I swiped from Wikipedia) is a remarkable, and remarkably aggravating, piece of work. If you look at the underlying code the complexity is just insane. My hats off to you for tackling it. If you have any technical questions feel free to ask away on my talk page. Thanks a lot. {{ebakunin sig}}. ::::Yeah, it started to become difficult to predict the placement of the "|" that I was using in the article - I was writing this table in my browser. The width of each character I typed was not equal, so by the time I really started to edit a line, the only way for me to tell where I was, was to count, or simply bring up a preview. Also, I may not have noticed correctly, but it seemed like while I was typing, as long as I maintained a certain number of "|" per line (counting from the left), then I would end up reasonably close to what I predicted I would get. Anyways, This one may need a little more work, but I gave it a shot.--[[User:S.gage|S.gage]] 04:24, 11 July 2009 (UTC) ::::Yeah, it started to become difficult to predict the placement of the "|" that I was using in the article - I was writing this table in my browser. The width of each character I typed was not equal, so by the time I really started to edit a line, the only way for me to tell where I was, was to count, or simply bring up a preview. Also, I may not have noticed correctly, but it seemed like while I was typing, as long as I maintained a certain number of "|" per line (counting from the left), then I would end up reasonably close to what I predicted I would get. Anyways, This one may need a little more work, but I gave it a shot.--[[User:S.gage|S.gage]] 04:24, 11 July 2009 (UTC)
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::I like this family tree, but I have a suggestion - this template is cool, but cumbersome to use. Rather than use this template on every character page, why not make separate, family tree pages entitled, for example, [[Steiner Geneology]] for all the Steiners (and Steiner-Davions), or [[Kurita tree]], or even place the tree on [[House Marik]]. Though these might be tremendously long and complicated trees, you would only need to make one per major family - I figure that would entail one for each of the major houses, one for each of the major periphery realms, several mercenary families, several supporting families, and of course, major Clan bloodines - as a conservative estimate, you could probably start with 30 family trees and cover nearly everyone important.--[[User:S.gage|S.gage]] 19:59, 10 July 2009 (UTC) | ::I like this family tree, but I have a suggestion - this template is cool, but cumbersome to use. Rather than use this template on every character page, why not make separate, family tree pages entitled, for example, [[Steiner Geneology]] for all the Steiners (and Steiner-Davions), or [[Kurita tree]], or even place the tree on [[House Marik]]. Though these might be tremendously long and complicated trees, you would only need to make one per major family - I figure that would entail one for each of the major houses, one for each of the major periphery realms, several mercenary families, several supporting families, and of course, major Clan bloodines - as a conservative estimate, you could probably start with 30 family trees and cover nearly everyone important.--[[User:S.gage|S.gage]] 19:59, 10 July 2009 (UTC) | ||
| − | :::I think we should have both. I don't believe that most readers care who [[Hohiro Kurita II|Hohiro]]'s great-great-great-grandfather was, but [[Hanse Davion|Hanse]]'s familial relation to [[Michael Hasek-Davion]] ''is'' important to the storyline (see [[Hanse Davion#Family tree|family tree]]). A twenty-generation ancestry will be difficult to decipher and I think most entries should only focus on recent and relevant family members. | + | :::I think we should have both. I don't believe that most readers care who [[Hohiro Kurita II|Hohiro]]'s great-great-great-grandfather was, but [[Hanse Davion|Hanse]]'s familial relation to [[Michael Hasek-Davion]] ''is'' important to the storyline (see [[Hanse Davion#Family tree|family tree]]). A twenty-generation ancestry will be difficult to decipher and I think most entries should only focus on recent and relevant family members. {{ebakunin sig}} |
::::DUDE!! That's awesome!!! Probably put 3 or 4 generations on the character pages and then a family page with everything? --[[User:Communibus locis|Communibus Locis]] | ::::DUDE!! That's awesome!!! Probably put 3 or 4 generations on the character pages and then a family page with everything? --[[User:Communibus locis|Communibus Locis]] | ||
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:::Every person now has a three letter abbreviation, which when surrounded by one space on both sides guarantees that all the pipes are aligned. With all the pipes in order it becomes clear that each row has a different number of table cells, which can be easily fixed. Having an unequal number of table cells can be an issue in some older browsers. | :::Every person now has a three letter abbreviation, which when surrounded by one space on both sides guarantees that all the pipes are aligned. With all the pipes in order it becomes clear that each row has a different number of table cells, which can be easily fixed. Having an unequal number of table cells can be an issue in some older browsers. | ||
| − | :::This template (which I swiped from Wikipedia) is a remarkable, and remarkably aggravating, piece of work. If you look at the underlying code the complexity is just insane. My hats off to you for tackling it. If you have any technical questions feel free to ask away on my talk page. Thanks a lot. | + | :::This template (which I swiped from Wikipedia) is a remarkable, and remarkably aggravating, piece of work. If you look at the underlying code the complexity is just insane. My hats off to you for tackling it. If you have any technical questions feel free to ask away on my talk page. Thanks a lot. {{ebakunin sig}}. |
::::Yeah, it started to become difficult to predict the placement of the "|" that I was using in the article - I was writing this table in my browser. The width of each character I typed was not equal, so by the time I really started to edit a line, the only way for me to tell where I was, was to count, or simply bring up a preview. Also, I may not have noticed correctly, but it seemed like while I was typing, as long as I maintained a certain number of "|" per line (counting from the left), then I would end up reasonably close to what I predicted I would get. Anyways, This one may need a little more work, but I gave it a shot.--[[User:S.gage|S.gage]] 04:24, 11 July 2009 (UTC) | ::::Yeah, it started to become difficult to predict the placement of the "|" that I was using in the article - I was writing this table in my browser. The width of each character I typed was not equal, so by the time I really started to edit a line, the only way for me to tell where I was, was to count, or simply bring up a preview. Also, I may not have noticed correctly, but it seemed like while I was typing, as long as I maintained a certain number of "|" per line (counting from the left), then I would end up reasonably close to what I predicted I would get. Anyways, This one may need a little more work, but I gave it a shot.--[[User:S.gage|S.gage]] 04:24, 11 July 2009 (UTC) | ||