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Line 167: ::: In regards to '''Point 1''', I was unaware of the official naming conventions when I started this so some of these you listed were when I was unaware. Case in point, the Dena Shaw (CW) item. I should not have done that, but I do not have the ability to change article names either. Just your humble data miner :) Now as for using the character's name and then character's name plus Clan name, I think there is some confusion on my part. Per the formal rules, we just use the character name and nothing else for the first mention. When a second character appears with the same name, do I use the (Clan Name) format or do I skip directly to the phenotype label? I think that is the hang up I am having. ::: In regards to '''Point 1''', I was unaware of the official naming conventions when I started this so some of these you listed were when I was unaware. Case in point, the Dena Shaw (CW) item. I should not have done that, but I do not have the ability to change article names either. Just your humble data miner :) Now as for using the character's name and then character's name plus Clan name, I think there is some confusion on my part. Per the formal rules, we just use the character name and nothing else for the first mention. When a second character appears with the same name, do I use the (Clan Name) format or do I skip directly to the phenotype label? I think that is the hang up I am having. − − :::: Just to quickly interject. I think all Senior Editors got the ability to rename pages, by using the move tab at the top of each page, so you should be able to do it CungrVanck, if you are comfortable doing so. Otherwise if anyone has a list of pages which need to be renamed I am happy to process them. --[[User:HF22|HF22]] ([[User talk:HF22|talk]]) 01:31, 22 September 2022 (EDT) − − :::::Good morning HF22! After your message, I checked and I do indeed have the ability to rename pages! No one told me I could do that. I have fixed the most obvious error, but will hold off on others until I continue on through the phone book. Once I have a full idea of just whom we have listed, the changes may be easier to organize. Thanks for the info and I appreciate any feedback you may have![[User:CungrVanck|CungrVanck]] ([[User talk:CungrVanck|talk]]) 09:12, 22 September 2022 (EDT) ::: Now that being said, considering I am only half way through the Wolf Clan phone book and the same people wrote the Jade Falcon sourcebook, I fully expect to find similar amounts of the same names in that book. So would I start with Zasser (Jade Falcon) and then skip directly to the Zasser (Unit name)? Leaving aside any potential characters from the other Clans from books of the time. Could get a bit messy there, but we will power through. ::: Now that being said, considering I am only half way through the Wolf Clan phone book and the same people wrote the Jade Falcon sourcebook, I fully expect to find similar amounts of the same names in that book. So would I start with Zasser (Jade Falcon) and then skip directly to the Zasser (Unit name)? Leaving aside any potential characters from the other Clans from books of the time. Could get a bit messy there, but we will power through. Line 180:
Line 176: ::::Re: Point 1, inability to change article names ::::Re: Point 1, inability to change article names − ::::Yikes, I thought that permission was reserved for users that had profiles, but based on your statement that you, having a profile, cannot change article names. This inability makes your phone book logging task along with the Clan unblooded disambiguation task very difficult since your profile only has permissions to set article names at the time of article creation (like me), '''but you won't know if an article needs to go down the disambiguation hierarchy until you are done logging the entire phone book.''' + ::::Yikes, I thought that permission was reserved for users that had profiles, but based on your statement that you, having a profile, cannot change article names makes your phone book logging task along with the Clan unblooded disambiguation task very difficult since your profile only has permissions to set article names at the time of article creation (like me), but you won't know if an article needs to go down the disambiguation hierarchy until you are done logging the entire phone book. ::::Might be worth asking one of the mods/admins if your profile can be given access to change article names, given the unsorted phone book nature of the xx Clan Sourcebooks, and given the need to disambiguate articles with similar names while going down that list. Unfortunately, I'm not entirely sure who could grant that kind of access, and that assumes that they'd be willing to do so. ::::Might be worth asking one of the mods/admins if your profile can be given access to change article names, given the unsorted phone book nature of the xx Clan Sourcebooks, and given the need to disambiguate articles with similar names while going down that list. Unfortunately, I'm not entirely sure who could grant that kind of access, and that assumes that they'd be willing to do so. Line 201:
Line 197: [[Special:Contributions/75.23.228.139|75.23.228.139]] 14:19, 21 September 2022 (EDT) [[Special:Contributions/75.23.228.139|75.23.228.139]] 14:19, 21 September 2022 (EDT) − − ::::: And thank you for the assistance! As for obtaining access to change article names, I may know someone. Let me drop a line and find out. By the way, are you on the Sarna Discord? If so, what is your handle there? Ah...I see you now. Message sent! [[User:CungrVanck|CungrVanck]] ([[User talk:CungrVanck|talk]]) 14:25, 21 September 2022 (EDT) − − :::::: No, I'm not on the Sarna Discord, so I wouldn't have a handle there. [[Special:Contributions/75.23.228.139|75.23.228.139]] 15:00, 21 September 2022 (EDT) − − ==Appreciation== − [[File:RAA.jpg|Random Act of Appreciation Award, 1st ribbon]] Just want to say thanks for being easy to collaborate with on our various shared interests. --[[User:Csdavis715|Csdavis715]] ([[User talk:Csdavis715|talk]]) 11:02, 1 July 2023 (EDT) − : Good morning and thanks for the award! Yeah, I try to stay calm about any hiccups here as I have learned most of our policies and standards by running into them at high speed and then having someone come over and say "Don't do that." And I won't lie....I like getting the ribbons. Talk to you later! [[User:CungrVanck|CungrVanck]] ([[User talk:CungrVanck|talk]]) 08:08, 2 July 2023 (EDT) − − == Feel free to move that page if you need it. == − − Hey, CungrVanck:<p> − I noticed you made an edit to [[User:Talvin/Character Mining]]. As you may know, I am no longer active as an editor on Sarna. As you seem to be the person in charge of Data Mining, I hereby grant you permission to yoink that page out of my Userspace either for yourself or someone else who is actively working on that stuff. It was a lot of work, shame to waste it.<p> − Have fun!--[[User:Talvin|Talvin]] ([[User talk:Talvin|talk]]) 12:57, 22 November 2023 (EST) − : Good morning and apologies for taking awhile to respond. I thank you for the permission to use your previous work. The site has been growing wildly since we started cataloging minor characters and your work will help us find anyone we missed. Hope you and yours are doing well! [[User:CungrVanck|CungrVanck]] ([[User talk:CungrVanck|talk]]) 07:05, 8 December 2023 (EST) − ::Well, if you want a few more for the pile, see [[Essay: IlClan Jade Falcons]]. When I wrote that, I expected it to have a fairly short "shelf life" before it became totally obsolete. While a few more names have popped up (see the discussion page), it has remained current/relevant longer than I expected, and still has some red links. --[[User:Talvin|Talvin]] ([[User talk:Talvin|talk]]) 08:21, 8 December 2023 (EST)
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::: In regards to '''Point 1''', I was unaware of the official naming conventions when I started this so some of these you listed were when I was unaware. Case in point, the Dena Shaw (CW) item. I should not have done that, but I do not have the ability to change article names either. Just your humble data miner :) Now as for using the character's name and then character's name plus Clan name, I think there is some confusion on my part. Per the formal rules, we just use the character name and nothing else for the first mention. When a second character appears with the same name, do I use the (Clan Name) format or do I skip directly to the phenotype label? I think that is the hang up I am having. | ::: In regards to '''Point 1''', I was unaware of the official naming conventions when I started this so some of these you listed were when I was unaware. Case in point, the Dena Shaw (CW) item. I should not have done that, but I do not have the ability to change article names either. Just your humble data miner :) Now as for using the character's name and then character's name plus Clan name, I think there is some confusion on my part. Per the formal rules, we just use the character name and nothing else for the first mention. When a second character appears with the same name, do I use the (Clan Name) format or do I skip directly to the phenotype label? I think that is the hang up I am having. | ||
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::: Now that being said, considering I am only half way through the Wolf Clan phone book and the same people wrote the Jade Falcon sourcebook, I fully expect to find similar amounts of the same names in that book. So would I start with Zasser (Jade Falcon) and then skip directly to the Zasser (Unit name)? Leaving aside any potential characters from the other Clans from books of the time. Could get a bit messy there, but we will power through. | ::: Now that being said, considering I am only half way through the Wolf Clan phone book and the same people wrote the Jade Falcon sourcebook, I fully expect to find similar amounts of the same names in that book. So would I start with Zasser (Jade Falcon) and then skip directly to the Zasser (Unit name)? Leaving aside any potential characters from the other Clans from books of the time. Could get a bit messy there, but we will power through. | ||
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| − | ::::Yikes, I thought that permission was reserved for users that had profiles, but based on your statement that you, having a profile, cannot change article names | + | ::::Yikes, I thought that permission was reserved for users that had profiles, but based on your statement that you, having a profile, cannot change article names makes your phone book logging task along with the Clan unblooded disambiguation task very difficult since your profile only has permissions to set article names at the time of article creation (like me), but you won't know if an article needs to go down the disambiguation hierarchy until you are done logging the entire phone book. |
::::Might be worth asking one of the mods/admins if your profile can be given access to change article names, given the unsorted phone book nature of the xx Clan Sourcebooks, and given the need to disambiguate articles with similar names while going down that list. Unfortunately, I'm not entirely sure who could grant that kind of access, and that assumes that they'd be willing to do so. | ::::Might be worth asking one of the mods/admins if your profile can be given access to change article names, given the unsorted phone book nature of the xx Clan Sourcebooks, and given the need to disambiguate articles with similar names while going down that list. Unfortunately, I'm not entirely sure who could grant that kind of access, and that assumes that they'd be willing to do so. | ||
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