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Line 84: Afternoon, Raven. Can you school me on something? What is the difference between the URL that was on the [[Titan (Dropship)]] page and the one you put in (besides the dropping of the /MUL)? I followed both and they both took me to (what appears to be) identical pages. As a test of the search function on MasterUnitList, I received a third URL [http://www.masterunitlist.info/Unit/Details/5248/titan-2647]. Maybe you don't know, but I thought since you made the change, you might know a bit of the ''why''. Thanks. --[[User:Revanche|Revanche]] <sup>([[User_talk:Revanche|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Revanche|contribs]])</sup> 13:41, 2 September 2013 (PDT) Afternoon, Raven. Can you school me on something? What is the difference between the URL that was on the [[Titan (Dropship)]] page and the one you put in (besides the dropping of the /MUL)? I followed both and they both took me to (what appears to be) identical pages. As a test of the search function on MasterUnitList, I received a third URL [http://www.masterunitlist.info/Unit/Details/5248/titan-2647]. Maybe you don't know, but I thought since you made the change, you might know a bit of the ''why''. Thanks. --[[User:Revanche|Revanche]] <sup>([[User_talk:Revanche|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Revanche|contribs]])</sup> 13:41, 2 September 2013 (PDT) :Good afternoon to you, as well. In regards to this link matter, there shouldn't be anything different, as I only separated the "MUL" from the end of link. With this "MUL" the link would still work, but that text was for the text that followed. Apparently, when removing the ending text (vehicle name and model [or year, in this case]) from an MUL link, nothing is changed. Hope this helps.--[[User:Raven 2C|Raven 2C]] ([[User talk:Raven 2C|talk]]) 15:30, 2 September 2013 (PDT) :Good afternoon to you, as well. In regards to this link matter, there shouldn't be anything different, as I only separated the "MUL" from the end of link. With this "MUL" the link would still work, but that text was for the text that followed. Apparently, when removing the ending text (vehicle name and model [or year, in this case]) from an MUL link, nothing is changed. Hope this helps.--[[User:Raven 2C|Raven 2C]] ([[User talk:Raven 2C|talk]]) 15:30, 2 September 2013 (PDT) − ::Thanks. --[[User:Revanche|Revanche]] <sup>([[User_talk:Revanche|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Revanche|contribs]])</sup> 16:54, 2 September 2013 (PDT) − − ==Raven II== − Hy, would you uploade the image in next time, or i uploade it.--[[User:Doneve|Doneve]] ([[User talk:Doneve|talk]]) 15:15, 15 September 2013 (PDT) − :Hi Doneve. I've got the image.--[[User:Raven 2C|Raven 2C]] ([[User talk:Raven 2C|talk]]) 15:24, 15 September 2013 (PDT) − − ==Comsys & T&T== − Hello again, thanks for involving to add comsys and t&t systems, the focus is at this time on the comsys, i know there is a lot to do, but i bring the page up to work with semantic wiki stuff.--[[User:Doneve|Doneve]] ([[User talk:Doneve|talk]]) 15:47, 15 September 2013 (PDT) − :I'm going to be a bit busy during the week, but I'll definitely try to add/fix anything I come across relating to this.--[[User:Raven 2C|Raven 2C]] ([[User talk:Raven 2C|talk]]) 15:51, 15 September 2013 (PDT) − − == All Purpose Award == − − Hey Raven 2C, I don't think that we've met yet, but I want to give you an award; here is an all purpose award [[File:AP.jpg|All Purpose Award, 1st ribbon]] for your many solid grammatical edits (and some edits of my edits {{Emoticon| ;) }} ) as of late. I like the work you're doing and truly hope you are in it for the long haul. I guess you can put the award on your user page yourself... -[[User:BobTheZombie|BobTheZombie]] ([[User talk:BobTheZombie|talk]]) 21:43, 15 September 2013 (PDT) − :Hello there. Many thanks for this award! I can't promise I'll keep the work up for very long (school and work stuff in the way), but I'll definitely try to keep things going.--[[User:Raven 2C|Raven 2C]] ([[User talk:Raven 2C|talk]]) 15:23, 16 September 2013 (PDT) − ::Same here; I've been so busy recently and am glad just to get to work on Sarna again. -[[User:BobTheZombie|BobTheZombie]] ([[User talk:BobTheZombie|talk]]) 15:40, 16 September 2013 (PDT) − − ==Redirects== − Hy Raven, when you add redirects please add it to the component name and not as you do on the targeting-tracking page, as example look to the [[Yinghuochong]] page, what i do with the comsys or better to the [[Nisos]], i added at firt a link to the comsys then update the comsys page and set up the redirect to the name.--[[User:Doneve|Doneve]] ([[User talk:Doneve|talk]]) 17:57, 27 September 2013 (PDT) − :Hello! Thanks for telling me; I will keep your method in mind {{emoticon| ;)}}. It sounds easier. The T&T page is different, though, since there are no components but first letters.--[[User:Raven 2C|Raven 2C]] ([[User talk:Raven 2C|talk]]) 18:14, 27 September 2013 (PDT) − − == Linebacker == − Hi Raven, nice to see you again {{Emoticon| :) }} I just dug out a copy of Record Sheets: 3055 UU, and the Linebacker-F configuration is on page 155. I don't know if this is significant, but the 3 tons of SRM ammo are all marked as (SRM 6 Narc) ammo by default. Hope that helps. [[User:BrokenMnemonic|BrokenMnemonic]] ([[User talk:BrokenMnemonic|talk]]) 10:44, 30 July 2014 (PDT) − :Hi BM! {{Emoticon| :) }} Thanks for the page number, and the ammo type. The strange thing, though, is that Solaris Skunk Werks shows regular SRM ammo for the SRM-6s, but I'll change that as I trust the actual copy than an indirect version. Thanks again!--[[User:Raven 2C|Raven 2C]] ([[User talk:Raven 2C|talk]]) 11:01, 30 July 2014 (PDT) − ::Not a problem - it's nice to be able to help out. I'd suggest that calculating the BV2 for the Linebacker-F manually would help clarify if the ammo cost has been included, but BV2 seems like a mix of government finance crossed with voodoo and numerology. DriveThruRPG seems to think I have the most up to date copy of the record sheets, so I'd definitely count it as a primary source, rather than SSW - no offence to SSW. [[User:BrokenMnemonic|BrokenMnemonic]] ([[User talk:BrokenMnemonic|talk]]) 11:06, 30 July 2014 (PDT) − − ==Video Game Project== − Hello again, I noticed you were interested in improving the video game coverage here, and wondered if you wanted to start out by helping me out with the stats of various games. Before that, I think we should figure out who has which games so we can decide who will do what. The first step would be to put down which ones you have [http://www.sarna.net/wiki/User:BobTheZombie/Project_Video_Games here], then we can start making subpages of each of the games for equipment, mechs, vehicles, (possibly characters), etc. and adding info directly from what the games/manuals say. Finally, we can cite other web sites as references to cross check and make sure that they're right. How does that sound to you? We should also go through and make sure the layout and depth of all the game articles are consistent, as well as any info needed there. − − p.s. If you know anyone else who'd have more games/also be willing to help then direct them to the "Project page" I made. Thanks! -[[User:BobTheZombie|BobTheZombie]] ([[User talk:BobTheZombie|talk]]) 14:12, 15 August 2014 (PDT) − :Hey, Bob! I'll post on your page what I have available, and I was actually thinking of carrying out this work in roughly the same manner (the characters part might be a bit tricky, though). Also, there are a couple of mods for MC2 around, that could be considered for listing on your page.--[[User:Raven 2C|Raven 2C]] ([[User talk:Raven 2C|talk]]) 14:41, 15 August 2014 (PDT) − ::Yeah, we can wait with the characters, those equipment stats should be enough to do for now. Also, feel free to add any of those mods (MC2, MW4, etc.) to the list under their respective game with consistent formatting. Also, if you want to start adding info, go ahead; as for the page name, I ''think'' it goes like '''Video Game Name/Equipment''', etc. I just started wondering if we should combine the originally separate "Mech" and "Vehicle" subpages into one "Unit" subpage, but we can wait with that. I'd say you might as well start whenever you want, and I'll likely start off doing MCG as you don't have that one. Be sure to use the game itself as the primary reference, then back it up with info from a web site. Also, I have a template you can use on my [[User:BobTheZombie/Sandbox|Sandbox page]]. Thanks for teaming up with me on this! -[[User:BobTheZombie|BobTheZombie]] ([[User talk:BobTheZombie|talk]]) 20:30, 15 August 2014 (PDT) − ::Another thought, just plan on adding a page for the main game (i.e. MW4, MW3, MC2, etc.) and we can include whether it was an expansion item in text under (or above) the table. That will save on a lot of redundancies. That also brings up the question of if explanatory text should go above or below the chart. -[[User:BobTheZombie|BobTheZombie]] ([[User talk:BobTheZombie|talk]]) 22:15, 15 August 2014 (PDT) − :::Alright, I'll try to get started on MC2 (OmnniTech mod). There really isn't a reference site for it, however, so I'll be using data directly from the game files. Also, I don't know if you've seen this yet, but there is a [http://www.sarna.net/wiki/MechCommander_%28Video_Game_Resource%29 MechCommander Resource Section] already made. Maybe you could merge it with the one you're working on?--[[User:Raven 2C|Raven 2C]] ([[User talk:Raven 2C|talk]]) 10:45, 16 August 2014 (PDT) − ::::Okay, be sure to just have it all included in a MC2 Subpage and explain under each weapon which game has those stats, then make a second table (or third, etc. for all different variations of a weapon) if there are variations and explain that in text below. Also, yes, I noticed the existing info; I will be checking that with the in-game info as well as lots of moving stuff around and reorganizing. They only had the original (not the expansion), so I'll add that too. Thanks for pointing it out! -[[User:BobTheZombie|BobTheZombie]] ([[User talk:BobTheZombie|talk]]) 11:41, 16 August 2014 (PDT) − ::::I have something working very well [[MechCommander (Video Game)/Equipment|here]], and you can use it as a template if you want. Keep trying things until it looks right and makes logical sense when you step back and look at it. Combining tables may help a lot; I'll need to tinker around and see if I can get the MCG one a little more streamlined. -[[User:BobTheZombie|BobTheZombie]] ([[User talk:BobTheZombie|talk]]) 14:29, 16 August 2014 (PDT) − − ==MC2 Base Game Weapons Table== − Sorting is cool, but what's more important to me is having that blank line between each weapon type. The sorting appears to break that. Any ideas? It doesn't have to be blank lines. It could also be a bolded border, or make the row background color a little different for each weapon type. I know how to change row background colors on an HTML table, but not using a wikitable. --[[User:Trifler|Trifler]] ([[User talk:Trifler|talk]]) 01:05, 5 October 2014 (PDT) − :Hi Trifler! I'll see to this matter. I've done a bit of research and will start experimenting. Maybe there could be a border color for each weapon type? I'll give it a try... --[[User:Raven 2C|Raven 2C]] ([[User talk:Raven 2C|talk]]) 08:31, 5 October 2014 (PDT) − ::You can ask Mbear about how to do it because he knows all about tables. -[[User:BobTheZombie|BobTheZombie]] ([[User talk:BobTheZombie|talk]]) 10:29, 5 October 2014 (PDT) − ::Actually I think I just figured out how to set background colors for rows. Thanks though! --[[User:Trifler|Trifler]] ([[User talk:Trifler|talk]]) 00:05, 6 October 2014 (PDT) − :::Alright, cool! I was going to look for something a bit less repetitive - more modular - but that works just fine!--[[User:Raven 2C|Raven 2C]] ([[User talk:Raven 2C|talk]]) 15:44, 6 October 2014 (PDT) − − ==More Video Game Discussion== − I tried adding a line at the top of pages to more easily point people to the video game versions; it's under discussion [[User talk:BobTheZombie/Project Video Games|here]] about what to do with those lines. Please chip in if you can. -[[User:BobTheZombie|BobTheZombie]] ([[User talk:BobTheZombie|talk]]) 19:19, 21 October 2014 (PDT) − − ==Grommet== − Thanks. The article wasn't one my better efforts, i was little under time constraint at the time to finish it up. The Chain saw is diffidently in there. I goofed and forgot to add it to the equipment list in the infobox. Sorry that you had clean up my mess. -- [[User:Wrangler|Wrangler]] ([[User talk:Wrangler|talk]]) 17:30, 8 December 2014 (PST) − :Hi Wrangler! It's all ok, honestly. In fact, it offered a bit of a refresher to making edits on the wiki! No need to be sorry; everyone makes errors! {{Emoticon| :) }} --[[User:Raven 2C|Raven 2C]] ([[User talk:Raven 2C|talk]]) 20:04, 8 December 2014 (PST) − − ==MechCommander 2 Stuff== − Hi Raven. When you get a chance, I'd like a couple of people to please take a look at the stuff I added to the MechCommander 2 BattleMechs and Vehicles pages and let me know if they understand and agree with the text beneath the tables, etc. Some of it was difficult to explain and I'm not sure if readers will understand it as I intended it. Thanks. --[[User:Trifler|Trifler]] ([[User talk:Trifler|talk]]) 23:52, 8 December 2014 (PST) − − ==Swarm LRMs== − I noticed the section you put on the page, and perhaps it should be changed to "Notes" and talk about how it's included in the MC2 because I think that MC2 is the only game with that weapon in it. Just a thought. − − P.S. Thank you very much for your continued help with this Video Game coverage; you don't know how much I appreciate it {{emoticon|:)}} -[[User:BobTheZombie|BobTheZombie]] ([[User talk:BobTheZombie|talk]]) 15:03, 10 July 2015 (PDT) − :Hello! Yes, I suppose I will change as you suggest; again, that was a rather strange one, and there will be more when we get to other games (e.g. MW4 Mercs {{emoticon|;)}}). − :And it's been a pleasure working with you on the Game Coverage!--[[User:Raven 2C|Raven 2C]] ([[User talk:Raven 2C|talk]]) 15:16, 10 July 2015 (PDT) − ::MW4 is going to be a pain because there is MW4:Vengeance, MW4:Black Knight, MW4:Mercs, and Mek Tek. I think we should avoid that one for now, at least until we know how we're going to attack it... − ::Also, if you get done with your current MC2 work, feel free to follow after my template for adding Apocryphal Mech variants to their pages ([http://www.sarna.net/wiki/index.php?title=Firestarter_%28BattleMech%29&diff=390284&oldid=380352 example]). I'm currently adding shortcuts for their weapons so I can more easily link to them as I add the specific Mech stats for MCG. I then add the specific Mech variant(s) to the Mech pages. -[[User:BobTheZombie|BobTheZombie]] ([[User talk:BobTheZombie|talk]]) 15:30, 10 July 2015 (PDT) − :::I'll try to help out with the Apocryphal work as soon as the MC2 documentation is complete; there still is Wolfman's mod to incorporate, too, btw (xP).--[[User:Raven 2C|Raven 2C]] ([[User talk:Raven 2C|talk]]) 15:36, 10 July 2015 (PDT) − − ==Combined Proofreading Efforts== − I came up with an idea on [[User talk:WarDog Mike#Feedback: Great House articles|WarDog Mike's user talk page]] to go through and proofread/reformat the most visited pages, because they should be at the top of our priorities (mostly because they're the first impression people get of Sarna), but some of them are pretty shabby. I know you guys (and myself included) like to float around proofreading whatever page you stumble upon instead of being told which ones to do, but I think that you, me and the other active proofreaders need to go through [[Special:PopularPages|this list]] and make sure that these pages are up to par on grammar, formatting, linkage, and all that jazz. I don't know what you are busy with project-wise or how much free time you have, but it's an idea. What do you think? -[[User:BobTheZombie|BobTheZombie]] ([[User talk:BobTheZombie|talk]]) 14:00, 30 November 2015 (PST) − :Oh, yes, of course! I would definitely be interested in a project like that!--[[User:Raven 2C|Raven 2C]] ([[User talk:Raven 2C|talk]]) 19:11, 30 November 2015 (PST) − ::None of the other editors have responded yet, but I expect they will when they check the site again. Before we get the ball completely rolling, feel free to work on whatever you want in the meantime. Thanks for your enthusiasm! -[[User:BobTheZombie|BobTheZombie]] ([[User talk:BobTheZombie|talk]]) 22:11, 1 December 2015 (PST) − :::Sorry for my delay in getting back to you guys on this idea; I started a page [[User:BobTheZombie/Proofreading List|here]]. Let's get started! -[[User:BobTheZombie|BobTheZombie]] ([[User talk:BobTheZombie|talk]]) 17:50, 28 December 2015 (PST) − ::::Cool! Already on it, though my progress may be slow, especially at this time of the year... --[[User:Raven 2C|Raven 2C]] ([[User talk:Raven 2C|talk]]) 18:11, 28 December 2015 (PST) − − == Granularity and Focus == − − Hey R2C, I was just looking over your work on the [[MechWarrior: Living Legends]] article and have some concerns about the granularity and focus of the article. As strange as it sounds, I feel the article is too video game focused. I know the article is about a video game but this is not a video game wiki (I see you have your own dedicated video game wiki for MW:LL), this is a wiki dedicated to the BattleTech Universe. A prime example of what I mean is this: − :''"March 10th saw the release of a hotfix in the form of update 0.9.3, which reverted the network-related changes from 0.9.2 back to those of 0.9.1, fixing networking stability issues like warping."'' − To me this reads very much like it is taken from "patch notes" and I find it extremely questionable why this information would be of value to a casual reader on the BattleTech wiki. − − If anything... As somebody who has never played MW:LL, I browsed the article and assume, based on it being originally built on the Doom 3 engine that the game is an First Person Shooter, but I am not actually sure. − − Consider catering your sales pitch to the audience, Car sales people do not sell cars to little old grannies by talking about how fast a car is, that is how they get the petrol heads, they tell them how comfortable and ecenomical it is instead. Maybe more BattleTech and less video game.--[[User:Dmon|Dmon]] ([[User talk:Dmon|talk]]) 05:44, 30 July 2019 (EDT) − :I've begun work on rewriting the sections to some extent. I do tend to get carried away, especially when there's nobody else working on the same thing, so thanks for letting me know.--[[User:Raven 2C|Raven 2C]] ([[User talk:Raven 2C|talk]]) 12:21, 30 July 2019 (EDT) − − == New art for MekTek stuff == − − Hey Raven 2C, − − What is the source for the new artwork for the MekTek stuff? I didn't know any line art existed.--[[User:Dmon|Dmon]] ([[User talk:Dmon|talk]]) 21:48, 20 January 2020 (EST) − :I pulled these off of MekTek's official Discord server (https://discord.gg/DaCu8B). They were posted by one of their former alphatesters, who in turn got them from one of the modellers from back in MekTek's heyday - who is no longer around. Supposedly, the modeller in question went by the Internet handle of Insidious, but I haven't been able to find much about him.--[[User:Raven 2C|Raven 2C]] ([[User talk:Raven 2C|talk]]) 00:39, 21 January 2020 (EST) − ::Thanks, they are pretty damn good.--[[User:Dmon|Dmon]] ([[User talk:Dmon|talk]]) 05:54, 21 January 2020 (EST)
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Afternoon, Raven. Can you school me on something? What is the difference between the URL that was on the [[Titan (Dropship)]] page and the one you put in (besides the dropping of the /MUL)? I followed both and they both took me to (what appears to be) identical pages. As a test of the search function on MasterUnitList, I received a third URL [http://www.masterunitlist.info/Unit/Details/5248/titan-2647]. Maybe you don't know, but I thought since you made the change, you might know a bit of the ''why''. Thanks. --[[User:Revanche|Revanche]] <sup>([[User_talk:Revanche|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Revanche|contribs]])</sup> 13:41, 2 September 2013 (PDT) | Afternoon, Raven. Can you school me on something? What is the difference between the URL that was on the [[Titan (Dropship)]] page and the one you put in (besides the dropping of the /MUL)? I followed both and they both took me to (what appears to be) identical pages. As a test of the search function on MasterUnitList, I received a third URL [http://www.masterunitlist.info/Unit/Details/5248/titan-2647]. Maybe you don't know, but I thought since you made the change, you might know a bit of the ''why''. Thanks. --[[User:Revanche|Revanche]] <sup>([[User_talk:Revanche|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Revanche|contribs]])</sup> 13:41, 2 September 2013 (PDT) | ||
:Good afternoon to you, as well. In regards to this link matter, there shouldn't be anything different, as I only separated the "MUL" from the end of link. With this "MUL" the link would still work, but that text was for the text that followed. Apparently, when removing the ending text (vehicle name and model [or year, in this case]) from an MUL link, nothing is changed. Hope this helps.--[[User:Raven 2C|Raven 2C]] ([[User talk:Raven 2C|talk]]) 15:30, 2 September 2013 (PDT) | :Good afternoon to you, as well. In regards to this link matter, there shouldn't be anything different, as I only separated the "MUL" from the end of link. With this "MUL" the link would still work, but that text was for the text that followed. Apparently, when removing the ending text (vehicle name and model [or year, in this case]) from an MUL link, nothing is changed. Hope this helps.--[[User:Raven 2C|Raven 2C]] ([[User talk:Raven 2C|talk]]) 15:30, 2 September 2013 (PDT) | ||
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