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Line 325: :Thank you {{ emoticon | :) }} I've not had much free time for anything lately, but I discovered I have a copy of TRO:3058U in my email account at work, so I decided to see if I could do some small edits - don't tell my boss that, though... [[User:BrokenMnemonic|BrokenMnemonic]] ([[User talk:BrokenMnemonic|talk]]) 03:28, 7 February 2020 (EST) :Thank you {{ emoticon | :) }} I've not had much free time for anything lately, but I discovered I have a copy of TRO:3058U in my email account at work, so I decided to see if I could do some small edits - don't tell my boss that, though... [[User:BrokenMnemonic|BrokenMnemonic]] ([[User talk:BrokenMnemonic|talk]]) 03:28, 7 February 2020 (EST) ::Secret is safe with my {{ emoticon | ;) }}--[[User:Dmon|Dmon]] ([[User talk:Dmon|talk]]) 06:08, 7 February 2020 (EST) ::Secret is safe with my {{ emoticon | ;) }}--[[User:Dmon|Dmon]] ([[User talk:Dmon|talk]]) 06:08, 7 February 2020 (EST) − − == Double Redirects == − − Hi BrokenMnemonic, I've been working with the [[Special:DoubleRedirects]] to get rid of them. All the ones that are not user based are corrected. But there is one related to your user: User:BrokenMnemonic/Clan Invasion Kickstarter 2019 (edit) → Clan Invasion Kickstarter 2019 → 2019 Clan Invasion crowdfunding campaign − − And I would never dare to change a personal page. Can you do it?--[[User:Pserratv|Pserratv]] ([[User talk:Pserratv|talk]]) 11:13, 11 March 2020 (EDT) − − :Sorted. This was the KS page getting moved around while [[User:Frabby]] and I wrangled over names {{ emoticon | ;) }} [[User:BrokenMnemonic|BrokenMnemonic]] ([[User talk:BrokenMnemonic|talk]]) 15:42, 11 March 2020 (EDT) − ::I imagined it was something like this. Thanks!--[[User:Pserratv|Pserratv]] ([[User talk:Pserratv|talk]]) 04:22, 12 March 2020 (EDT) − − == InfoBox update == − − Hey BM, − − After our conversation a couple of weeks ago I have updated the [[:Template:InfoBoxCharacter|Character infobox]] to include rank and title in order to add flexability. I have no intention of going through all the character articles to update them, but for the future if you could include the new box in newly created/updated aticles it would be good.--[[User:Dmon|Dmon]] ([[User talk:Dmon|talk]]) 08:12, 16 April 2020 (EDT) − :Willdo, thank you. [[User:BrokenMnemonic|BrokenMnemonic]] ([[User talk:BrokenMnemonic|talk]]) 12:37, 18 April 2020 (EDT) − ::Hey BM, − ::Saw your new [[Regulan Hussars]] articles and wanted to throw this your way. − − ::Very early stages of rollout ([[Northwind Highlanders]] have been up as a test since July) but just as a heads up the that the [[Help:CreateCommandArticle|House Command]] and [[Help:CreateMercenaryUnitArticle|Mercenary Command]] infoboxes are going to become obsolete soon and a combined [[Help:CreateCommandArticle|Military Command]] infobox brought in. Due to the number of effected articles it should be implimented in a similar manner to the character infobox, i.e. on new articles and when an existing one is updated.--[[User:Dmon|Dmon]] ([[User talk:Dmon|talk]]) 16:12, 31 August 2020 (EDT) − − == Reference pagination == − − I've noticed some discrepancies between page numbers cited in some articles and those in my copies of books. The clearest example I've found is in the references of [[Lee Shore]], which lists both page and chapter numbers. My copy of ''[[The Hunters]]'' (which reads "First Printing, December 1997" on the copyright page) doesn't agree with those page numbers. For example, notes 2 and 3 give references within Chapter 22 at pages 191 and 199, but in my copy of the novel Chapter 22 begins on page 210. The other citations are similarly different from what I have. − − I've encountered several such discrepancies, and I'm starting to suspect that maybe we're running into different editions that have different pagination. I'd like to see if I can get to the bottom of it. The article history indicates that you were the editor who contributed the references. Would you be able to check the page numbers and edition of your copy of ''The Hunters'' to see if we can account for the differences? [[User:Tosta Dojen|Tosta Dojen]] ([[User talk:Tosta Dojen|talk]]) 14:40, 17 August 2020 (EDT) − − :Ah, I know what'll be causing that - I'm working from an ebook copy I bought during the period where the books were semi-available from Catalyst but had disclaimers about possibly not being the final print-ready versions. [[User:BrokenMnemonic|BrokenMnemonic]] ([[User talk:BrokenMnemonic|talk]]) 15:38, 19 August 2020 (EDT) − − ::Thanks for checking; I figured it was something like that. I've been thinking about what to do about this kind of discrepancy. The print novel is the most canonical source, but using those page numbers still results in issues for readers and editors who have electronic copies of the novels. (And possibly also those who have print copies translated to another language.) − ::Maybe the best thing is to avoid '''page numbers''' when citing novels, in favor of '''chapter''' citations. Most of the citations I've added reference chapters—not because I anticipated this issue, but simply because that's how the articles were already structured when I got there. That should avoid the discrepancies while still providing a reasonably-specific reference for verification. [[User:Tosta Dojen|Tosta Dojen]] ([[User talk:Tosta Dojen|talk]]) 11:41, 27 August 2020 (EDT) − :::Yeah I started using Chapter instead of page when I realised that the default setting on my tablet uses quite a large size and the books where running into 500ish pages and I had no real way to check them.--[[User:Dmon|Dmon]] ([[User talk:Dmon|talk]]) 13:52, 27 August 2020 (EDT) − :::On the flipside most/all ebook versions have a search function so I would like to think we can scrape by on chapter even if it is not as accurate as is the norm on wikis.--[[User:Dmon|Dmon]] ([[User talk:Dmon|talk]]) 13:57, 27 August 2020 (EDT) − − ::::This is an old problem going back to the BattleCorps re-releases of the classic novels in a totally different format. We don't have a Sarna policy on this, but the default approach was to use the first print edition as the lead product. Since this may be accurate but ultimately is not very helpful for actually finding the quote when the first print edition of the book in question is hard to come by (hello ''[[The Sword and the Dagger]]''), I've often referred to chapters, too. Remember the purpose of quoting a reference: People should be able to look it up themselves and confirm it, and for this they need to find the quote. [[User:Frabby|Frabby]] ([[User talk:Frabby|talk]]) 07:13, 28 August 2020 (EDT) − − :::::I've been quoting both page and chapter for a while in references (although a while is subjective, given how long I've been on the site and when I started editing...) on the principle that regardless of the changes in pagination that portable media devices can make, the chapters are discrete blocks of text that are immediately identifiable, and most BattleTech books don't seem to have chapters that are particularly long, making skimming through for a bit of text relatively painless... [[User:BrokenMnemonic|BrokenMnemonic]] ([[User talk:BrokenMnemonic|talk]]) 06:55, 30 August 2020 (EDT) − − ==InfoBoxStateUnit —> InfoBoxMilitaryCommand== − Reminder: InfoBoxStateUnit is deprecated. We're transitioning to InfoBoxMilitaryCommand instead. :) [[User:Frabby|Frabby]] ([[User talk:Frabby|talk]]) 00:36, 1 September 2020 (EDT) − − ==Wynn's Roost== − Hey BM, − − Your Wynn's Roost rework has got to be the one of the best planet articles on the wiki now. Well done! I have done two small changes, I have changed the section heads to use two equals symbols instead of one (as is the norm across the rest of the wiki) and I have moved the affiliation section back up to the system section as I can't find any systems where two planets where considered to be of different factions so I am working to eliminate the second (usually blank) affiliation section most planet articles have. Hope you don't mind.--[[User:Dmon|Dmon]] ([[User talk:Dmon|talk]]) 18:21, 7 October 2020 (EDT) − :Hi Dmon, − :The format I used in the Wynn's Roost article is the one that I set up as the agreed template for the planets article as part of the Planets Project - you can see it in place in loads of other articles - look at [[Benet]], for example. I updated literally hundreds of articles manually to use it, after it was agreed as the standard - the single-level indentation for system and planet names is intentional, so that articles like the multi-planet Niops system can merge into one article. The distinct political affiliation sections in system history and planet history were the result of a compromise with Frabby, because while we're using system articles rather than planet articles, almost all of the affiliation information we have is based on the planets, not the systems, and we needed a mechanism to allow for when one power theoretically controlled a system but didn't occupy the planet itself. By default, the political affiliation in the system section is used when we have no definitive information on planets, and the political affiliation section is used where we actually have information on the planets themselves. Checking [[:Category:PPO Phase 5]] thee are over 1,200 planet articles using the updated format. Has the planets project decided to change the article format again? Only I've literally spent years updating articles to what was the agreed format. [[User:BrokenMnemonic|BrokenMnemonic]] ([[User talk:BrokenMnemonic|talk]]) 03:16, 8 October 2020 (EDT) − :I went back to check, and a lot of the discussion is here: [[BattleTechWiki:Project Planets/Planet Overhaul]] and in the associated talk page, and you can see the agreed template linked at the bottom of that page, or go to it directly here: [[BattleTechWiki:Project_Planets/Planet_Overhaul/C%26P_Template]] [[User:BrokenMnemonic|BrokenMnemonic]] ([[User talk:BrokenMnemonic|talk]]) 03:22, 8 October 2020 (EDT) − ::Ah, I shall have to give it a read. The PPO stuff has that many pages I have literally no idea of what the standards are. I can confirm that you do not have 1200 articles at phase 5 because I have updated at least 1100 of our 3300ish articles to benefit from specific planet designations.--[[User:Dmon|Dmon]] ([[User talk:Dmon|talk]]) 04:01, 8 October 2020 (EDT) − :::Having actually skimmed the discussion most of the people who participated are not very active on the wiki anymore and having found the standards for the various phases, I think I have roughly brought most of the planets up to something similar to being Phase 5 over the last 3 years.--[[User:Dmon|Dmon]] ([[User talk:Dmon|talk]]) 04:18, 8 October 2020 (EDT) − ::::The phases became a little redundant, even after the last revision, because of the switch to Nic generating the system tables automagically - one of the reasons I lost steam is because of the amount of time it took to manually generate and populate the nearby systems tables. Everything that's listed in the PPO Phase 5 category definitely has the latest template incorporated into each article though, and as good practise I left the unused sections in each article I updated, commented out so that if information became available, people who weren't familiar with the layout could see where information was supposed to go. [[User:BrokenMnemonic|BrokenMnemonic]] ([[User talk:BrokenMnemonic|talk]]) 08:08, 8 October 2020 (EDT) − − ==Thank you== − − Hey BM, − − Thank you for creating the [[BattleTech Salvage Box]] article, I was putting it off until last because I was not sure how I wanted handle it. You stepped up and created a nice simple good looking solution saving me the hassle. Have an all purpose award as a thank you. [[File:AP 1gc.jpg|All Purpose Award, 10th ribbon]] − − I shall update your awards board as well. --[[User:Dmon|Dmon]] ([[User talk:Dmon|talk]]) 09:48, 8 November 2020 (EST) − − :Hi Dmon, − :Thank you - seeing your UrbanMech salvage box article actually prompted me to hurry up and do something about a problem with theproduct codes of the articles I'd written on the dice and challenge coins, so it sounds like I helped us both out! [[User:BrokenMnemonic|BrokenMnemonic]] ([[User talk:BrokenMnemonic|talk]]) 13:01, 8 November 2020 (EST) − − ::All about Synergy!--[[User:Dmon|Dmon]] ([[User talk:Dmon|talk]]) 13:51, 8 November 2020 (EST) − − :::Now we just need everyone who received one of these uniquely-coded items to go in and add the details to the pages for badges/dice/coins/et al... [[User:BrokenMnemonic|BrokenMnemonic]] ([[User talk:BrokenMnemonic|talk]]) 14:23, 8 November 2020 (EST) − − ::::I have found the best way to get info out of the wider BT community is simply ask for it.--[[User:Dmon|Dmon]] ([[User talk:Dmon|talk]]) 14:32, 8 November 2020 (EST) − − :::::Did you back the KS, btw? I backed at Star Colonel, and while trying to reconcile the Pledge Manager against the KS campaign page, I've noticed that I can't find what's listed in the pledges from Star Captain up as "MechWarrior Pilots III" anywhere. I'm guessing it will ship as MechWarrior Card Pack III, because MechWarrior Pilots I & II have become MechWarrior Card Packs I & II (with individual product numbers) but I'm a little disconcerted I can't see pack III anywhere in the Pledge Manager. [[User:BrokenMnemonic|BrokenMnemonic]] ([[User talk:BrokenMnemonic|talk]]) 15:06, 8 November 2020 (EST) − − ::::::I did, only at Star Commander level with a load of digital add-ons though as I do not have an active player group, so I went for maximum lore over physical product. I have had similar issues concerning the Card Packs, I was looking last night in fact. I have messaged the KS page so if they get back to me I will let you know.--[[User:Dmon|Dmon]] ([[User talk:Dmon|talk]]) 15:18, 8 November 2020 (EST) − − :::::::A number of items have changed name between what was announced on the KS page, and what's in the pledge manager/my packing crate, which is confusing things a bit. I also have an outstanding email with the pledge manager thing over the fact that I ordered a digital copy of TRO 3067, and received a discount code that a) doesn't work in the CGL shop and b) looks like it might actually be for TRO: 3075... [[User:BrokenMnemonic|BrokenMnemonic]] ([[User talk:BrokenMnemonic|talk]]) 15:24, 8 November 2020 (EST) − :We already have a legendary MP article! [[BattleTech: Legendary MechWarriors]]--[[User:Dmon|Dmon]] ([[User talk:Dmon|talk]]) 17:20, 10 November 2020 (EST) − ::Ah. I'm working my way down the Kickstarter page here, and it was a redlink there, so I presumed the article hadn't been written. [[User:BrokenMnemonic|BrokenMnemonic]] ([[User talk:BrokenMnemonic|talk]]) 09:34, 11 November 2020 (EST) − − == Image Categories == − − Hi BrokenMnemonic, − − Do you know how the system maps are generated? All those images don't have a category and this makes the [https://www.sarna.net/wiki/Special:UncategorizedFiles Uncategorized files] not very useful as from the first 1000 thousand maybe 95% images as these ones. And I do not want to put them in a category as this might affect the "program" that generates them. Do you know who can help? Maybe when the image is generated it can be put in a category like "System Images". I'm asking more people, but do you have any idea?--[[User:Pserratv|Pserratv]] ([[User talk:Pserratv|talk]]) 04:22, 8 March 2021 (EST) − − == MapPack Duplicate == − − Hi, − − It looks to me like we have a duplicate pages for MapPack Grasslands - [[Map Pack: Grasslands]] and [[Map Pack: Grasslands]]. Since you created one, could I get your confirmation we both think these are about the same product before I merge them? Thanks. [[User:HF22|HF22]] ([[User talk:HF22|talk]]) 19:41, 11 September 2021 (EDT) − − ==Davion II Sources?== − Hey, do you know of any other sources on the [[Davion II (WarShip class)]]? It's running reference-lite.--[[User:Talvin|Talvin]] ([[User talk:Talvin|talk]]) 13:25, 16 March 2022 (EDT) − :I'll have a rummage around tonight. It needs the citations added to the article from the TRO, if nothing else! [[User:BrokenMnemonic|BrokenMnemonic]] ([[User talk:BrokenMnemonic|talk]]) 05:38, 17 March 2022 (EDT) − − == Off topic, hope you don't mind == − This is not BattleTech, but I think it is very much you: go to Amazon and search for "Spacecraft of the First World War: A Compendium of Fighting Vessels of the Great Powers" by William Flogg (Author), Michael Doscher (Author), Soloman Penn (Editor). Apologies if I am wrong, but it's a type of nerdery I think we share. :) --[[User:Talvin|Talvin]] ([[User talk:Talvin|talk]]) 22:02, 29 April 2022 (EDT)
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* ''[[The Hunters]]'' | * ''[[The Hunters]]'' | ||
| − | ** [[Bisan|DCS ''Bisan'']] - ''[[Achilles (DropShip | + | ** [[Bisan|DCS ''Bisan'']] - ''[[Achilles (DropShip)|Achilles]]'' |
** ''[[Alkmarr]]'' - ''[[Invader]]'' | ** ''[[Alkmarr]]'' - ''[[Invader]]'' | ||
| − | ** ''[[Buford]]'' - ''[[Star Lord (JumpShip | + | ** ''[[Buford]]'' - ''[[Star Lord (JumpShip)|Star Lord]]'' |
** ''[[Bernlad (Star Lord)|Bernlad]]'' - ''Star Lord'' | ** ''[[Bernlad (Star Lord)|Bernlad]]'' - ''Star Lord'' | ||
** ''Cabot'' - not sure | ** ''Cabot'' - not sure | ||
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:Thank you {{ emoticon | :) }} I've not had much free time for anything lately, but I discovered I have a copy of TRO:3058U in my email account at work, so I decided to see if I could do some small edits - don't tell my boss that, though... [[User:BrokenMnemonic|BrokenMnemonic]] ([[User talk:BrokenMnemonic|talk]]) 03:28, 7 February 2020 (EST) | :Thank you {{ emoticon | :) }} I've not had much free time for anything lately, but I discovered I have a copy of TRO:3058U in my email account at work, so I decided to see if I could do some small edits - don't tell my boss that, though... [[User:BrokenMnemonic|BrokenMnemonic]] ([[User talk:BrokenMnemonic|talk]]) 03:28, 7 February 2020 (EST) | ||
::Secret is safe with my {{ emoticon | ;) }}--[[User:Dmon|Dmon]] ([[User talk:Dmon|talk]]) 06:08, 7 February 2020 (EST) | ::Secret is safe with my {{ emoticon | ;) }}--[[User:Dmon|Dmon]] ([[User talk:Dmon|talk]]) 06:08, 7 February 2020 (EST) | ||
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