Category talk:Brawler BattleMechs

Delete Role Categories

The "Role" articles and (new) parent category are good to have, in my opinion (though they need to be modified to cover all combat units and not just BattleMechs). However, the sub-categories like this with a listing of 'Mechs in that specific role are untenable. 1) The roles depend on the individual variant so one chassis theoretically can be listed in all categories. This means each variants would need to be tagged in order to be accurate. 2) The categories have been present for over a decade and there are less than 10 members in each category. How many thousands of designs are there left to add? I feel this listing is best left to a database--the Master Unit List. --Cache (talk) 11:08, 10 May 2020 (EDT)

I am inclined to agree with the motion to delete. I have not used the MUL in ages so I am not sure if it has units sortable by role but no BT product I am aware of has such a list. As such I am not sure we would ever be able to ever turn these categories into anything much more than they currently are.--Dmon (talk) 12:13, 10 May 2020 (EDT)

Respectfully, can this be reconsidered? It seems MUL supports looking up units by role. For brawlers it lists:

• BattleMech 482
• Combat Vehicle 85
• IndustrialMech 11
• Protomech 18
• Support Vehicle 64

Also both RS Succession Wars and RS Clans roles are listed in the "'Mech Data" box. In fact I was planning to update it with MUL and RS material.--Mindw (talk) 07:13, 12 May 2020 (EDT)

I maintain that roles are best left to the MUL. They are too much for us to reliably maintain on the wiki. You added one role to the Centurion article. Roles are assigned to specific variants, not to the overall chassis, and not all Centurion variants are Brawlers. OmniMechs can have an even greater range of roles. You can add multiple categories to the article, but in order to be accurate you need to specify which variants are assigned what roles. Much like my opinion of adding factions to these articles, leave it to the MUL.--Cache (talk) 10:55, 17 May 2020 (EDT)

This perhaps suggest that the categories are the wrong tool for the job? we can add for each variant same way as the the BV. Looking at quirks, the master table in the BMM states that it covers all variants of a 'Mech unless otherwise stated - perhaps the same principle may be used for the roles? The roles *not* exclusive to the MUL, they appear in both latest TROs (Succession wars and clan) doesn't it suggest there are here to stay?--Mindw (talk) 13:29, 17 May 2020 (EDT)

My opinion is that roles shouldn't be added to unit articles in any way. In the nearly 15 years since they were first added to the wiki, the only interest they have been shown has been after I suggested deleting their underutilized categories. One parent article describing roles is enough. (And there are two articles that should be merged, if I remember correctly.) Cache (talk) 14:42, 17 May 2020 (EDT)