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Thank you

I just noticed where you added a link to my site in your links section. I appreciate it. Thank you! Jherbert2 02:53, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

Need help with InfoBoxes?

Revanche, if you need help with Infoboxes (creating/updating) I'm willing to try it. I may not know a whole lot about them but I can learn fast. I was thinking I'd start with a ProtoMech Infobox based on the Battlemech infobox. Sound good?--Mbear 19:39, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

Excellent idea. Please do. Doneve will contact me when he has the data for the infobox ready, but I'll definitely pass that off to you. That would be a great way to cut your teeth. Absolutely ask me about any questions you might have. Thanks! --Revanche ^{(talk|contribs)} 21:22, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

Actually I went ahead and put together a test version. Template:InfoBoxProtoMech. You can see it "in action" at User:Mbear/ProtoMechTest --Mbear 23:11, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

I think it works great. Protomechs don't really give you the opportunity to mess with collapsible fields (i.e., they disappear when empty), but since you understand the concept, you might seek out a category that could use advanced infoboxes. Will you be building a 'Quickly Create' help page? --Revanche ^{(talk|contribs)} 02:33, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

Uhh. Sure! I'll need to research the procedure pages though.--Mbear 12:58, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

No problem; I'll throw it together. Its not too hard. You did the hardest work already.--Revanche ^{(talk|contribs)} 15:17, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

Actually I think I've got it. Here's the page I came up with: Help:CreateProtoMechArticle If anything needs to go, let me know. --Mbear 18:51, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

Word of Blake Militia Units Project

I am progressing through the Word of Blake Shadow Divisions as quickly as I can. Please do not delete the remaining empty ones. -- Wrangler 14:26, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

I don't think I did. The only thing I remember deleting yesterday was an empty page that had a deletion request due to improper naming. --Revanche ^{(talk|contribs)} 15:18, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

46th & 51st Shadow Divisions received a sub-stub template, which notes eventual automatic deletion. Been trucking along with Blake Divisions since December. I finally got them organized since their creation by someone else in correct order and going one by one filling them out. I just need couple weeks to finish filling these empty articles out. Since you put the sub-stubs on there, i'm asking they be removed them. They will be done. I'm getting slightly busier in next couple days should be done soon - Wrangler 15:46, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

Safest bet would be to add at least two concrete facts to each of the articles of interest and then a note on the discussion page. When I do time-deletions (which I haven't yet), I review for current interest and/or development. That would be true of any other admins doing cleanup (and empty articles are a hot topic amongst the admins right now). I can't, as one admin, give you carte blanche to leave them as they are, because that means I'd be hindering another admin. I'll re-consider deleting any WoB unit articles because of this conversation, but it'd be best if you did a stop-gap improvement and declaration of intent for each article. --Revanche ^{(talk|contribs)} 16:03, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

Both formentioned Divisons have been added content. I was lucky be able to make time to do it at this moment. I will need add more later. -- Wrangler 20:11, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

Nominations

How do we nominate an Editor for an admin-only award? Thanks! ClanWolverine101

Just contact an Admin on that page or directly. The Admin will review the nominees efforts and decide if he wants to award the ribbon. Any guidance you provide the Admin would help lead to a positive decision. --Revanche ^{(talk|contribs)} 19:42, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

Cool. In that case, I nominate Doneve for this new award. I've added about a dozen bio pages as of late, and D. has been quick to upload the pics. They look much better that way. ClanWolverine101

Concur. Nomination accepted. --Revanche ^{(talk|contribs)} 21:57, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

Yearlist

Hy Revanche, can you take a look on 2238, i want to update the yearlist by Bibliography and References, on this way.Doneve 12:43, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for asking, Doneve. First off, 'bibliography' is mis-spelled. Second, if you don't mind, please hold off on adding refs and biblios to year pages. That seems unnecessary work to me, for the linked articles should have those already. I'm thinking of opening a discussion about this shortly. Thanks. --Revanche ^{(talk|contribs)} 19:46, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

your are right, my brain is in work, I tell you in next time.Doneve 20:14, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

uupps the ...ie... on Biblio...is fals ;)— The preceding unsigned comment was posted by name (talk • contribs) .

What do you mean? It is mis-spelled.--Revanche ^{(talk|contribs)} 20:24, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

I know it, sorry ;);Doneve 20:41, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

DropShip Infobox problem

Hy please can you fix the DropShip Infobox template, when i add the Structural Integrity/Fuel tons and Fuel Burn Rate, i can't see it on the saved page.Doneve 01:11, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

Give me a link, please, to an article where you have tried to change it. I don't know what is wrong until I see what you are trying to do. --Revanche ^{(talk|contribs)} 01:45, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

When i add the Structural Integrity & Burn Rate/Burn Days Rate i cannot se it, when i add the informaton on the saved page.Doneve 01:58, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

Which article? --Revanche ^{(talk|contribs)} 02:13, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

The first DropShip Achilles and all of DropShip sites!!.Doneve 02:24, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

Ugh. Okay, this may be difficult to understand, but if you cannot, please ask Frabby to translate. Structural Integrity is now fixed. Burn Rate/Burn Days Rate have both been changed to read 'Fuel (tons)' and 'Fuel (days)'. In order for you to see it, your data has to show those words, not Burn Rate/Burn Days Rate. All DropShip articles have to be updated to show this. Wrangler asked for the change, so if you ask him, I'm sure he'll help you change all the articles. --Revanche ^{(talk|contribs)} 02:46, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

Okidokid, my wife put me up from the comp.:) ;), i talk to you tomorrow.Doneve 02:51, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

CCG Card Question

I see on the CCG site there not listed the full card Image, i corrected when it is ok, by the full card image.Doneve 01:13, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

Which article? A link would be helpful.--Revanche ^{(talk|contribs)} 01:45, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

UUUPPSS sorry my language ;), the CCG Cards there list not the full carde Image on the page also i want to pik it up to full integration Doneve 01:49, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

Which article?--Revanche ^{(talk|contribs)} 02:13, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

Look at Hitman (HM-1) (CCG - MechWarrior). See how the card is seen 2 times? If only the picture is uploaded, then the card is 'complete'. Founder Nic set it up to do this.--Revanche ^{(talk|contribs)} 02:18, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

The false question by myself, sorry ;)Doneve 02:21, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

Armor Tonnages

Hi, I'm new as an editor to Sarna, but so you know I was the guy who fixed the Ironsides aerospace fighter. I was wondering if it would be possible to add armor tonnages to the 'mech stat bars? Whenever I look up a 'mech I tend to move past the ones that don't have armor tonnages because i hate working it out or searching more.
If it can happen, I'd be happy to help with any of the 3050/3055 'mechs as they are the only manuals I own. Thanks very much--Mop no more 09:22, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

Hey, Mop; glad you could join us. I have been making changes to the aerospace templates, because there is no formalized community working on those. However, 'Mechs do have such a community, called Project BattleMechs. I'd ask that you go there first, to the talk page, and suggest your idea. Flesh it out some, describing where it would be on the infobox, how you'd seek to fill it in, etc.

The community isn't too active anymore because all but the newest 'Mechs have been inputted (<--is that a word?), but because 'Mechs are second only to planets in the numbers of articles, what you are suggesting has the potential of affecting hundreds of articles, leaving a blank gap in all of the 'Mechs you don't personally change.

By approaching the community first, and giving them about a few days to respond, you'll be seeking consensus and drumming up help, which could improve each of the articles. And, as is part of the B-E-D policy on consensus, if no one responds in a set amount of time, then you also have consensus! In that case, I'd be glad to make the changes you recommend.

If you choose to take up this pet project, power to you! And, I'll keep an eye on it, providing a direct link to it on the front page, ok? --Revanche ^{(talk|contribs)} 13:59, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

ha, darn. I may have to post-pone this one then until the holidays, when I have school out of the way. If I had thought of the number of articles that would have required updating, I may have thought that one through better. Still, I'll see what I can do about it when I can, and thanks for the support. Mop no more 14:53, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

Okay, I understand the need to wait until you have time, but the great think about that Wiki Project is you can rally a team effort. The other articles, including planets, don't have the cohesion that Project BattleMech has shown in the past. --Revanche ^{(talk|contribs)} 17:06, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

CreateCharacterArticle

Hello Revanche i have at the time not the power to figuring out Helptalk:CreateCharacterArticle, i give ClanWolverine101 an response, but the Bibliography an References idea works very well, i talk to you tomorrow.Best wishesDoneve 19:50, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

Hey - just gathering things together. Will respond later. ClanWolverine101

Hy Revanche i hope my reference update works very well, i began to expand this on the Units article sites.Greetings Doneve 15:51, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

BattleMech Roles Question

Hi Rev, I noticed your making new series of articles regarding roles of 'Mechs. Won't it be easier to have them rolled up into a single article verse seperate smaller ones? -- Wrangler 22:41, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

It would for some, but for me, I enjoy the idea that a smaller article may breed further interest that increases the amount of material initially put into it. I believe its harder to expand a 'list' article with new consistent information and/or diverge the material than it is to lump related articles into a relevant category. (Its also why you see me create a lot of stub articles. ) Thanks for asking! --Revanche ^{(talk|contribs)} 22:46, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

Superb Support

Hy Revange I give you the added Award , for your super (we call in german ;)...and your support, please putt this award on your page.Greetings Doneve 23:29, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

Hey, thanks Doneve! Really. Its the first Editor award I've ever been given. Thanks.--Revanche ^{(talk|contribs)} 23:32, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

No problem, you are the admin there help me something out, and you have every a ear for the support, or a eye for it, is this right )...Have a good time.Doneve 23:37, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

File deletion

Hy, Reavanche, please can you tell me how i delete Images, there is a lot of mess in the CCG Category, and you see i uploade in the last days some CCG Card Images.Greeting Doneve 13:13, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

Unfortunately, only Admins have the ability to delete anything from the wiki. However, as Neufeld did, by putting {{deletion|1}} onto the article/file (remember: replace '1' with the reason why), you bring it to our attention and we'll review it. If it merits deletion, we'll do it. --Revanche ^{(talk|contribs)} 18:02, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

All Purpose Award

You get an All Purpose Award:

for clearing up the articles tagged for deletion. --Neufeld 13:53, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, Neufeld. I appreciate that. --Revanche ^{(talk|contribs)} 18:02, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

Image Galley

Hoolla, Revance in last there are so many images uplodead, when it is ok, i start a gallary update, i want to add pictures, from some sourcess, i know with cannon ;) - "Classic BattleTech", there i can find in the sourcess ;)in...space...;), i picked up the gallery example, from you, or the Wike ;) grml, i am a english iditot, i can read all the stuff, and understandt it, but i have some problems with the grammatik,)Best Wishes--Doneve 00:24, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

Hy, i think Frabby must not translate, i see your gallery example on the Warhammer article, so many articles are overloaded with images, and i think it is a good idea, with a picture gallery in this articles, i picked up from the Warhammer article.Doneve 11:15, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

Okay. I can understand that statement. I think you want to create your own gallery (or galleries). How would you like me to help? --Revanche ^{(talk|contribs)} 11:32, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

Oh yea, every help is welcome . Have a good day.Doneve 11:42, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

Okay, no translation from me then. :) Frabby 12:06, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

How would you like me to help?--Revanche ^{(talk|contribs)} 11:55, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

What do you think, how we start a Image Canon, there we can discusse some image standarts or non image standarts, i come back in next time or next day.Doneve 12:02, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

Doneve, what you suggest with "Image Canon" amounts to a Policy for images. I'm all for it! Frabby 12:06, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

Upps, yeah i mean the Policy. When i have difficult questions i talk to you in german when it is ok Frabby.Doneve 12:10, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

Oooh, boy. Okay...I'll add it to the list. (I'm negative because I'm getting tired of writing policies, but I agree it would be a good idea).--Revanche ^{(talk|contribs)} 17:08, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

Hey Rev, I just spent about five minutes banging out a possible policy. It's over at User:Mbear/GalleryPolicy for your review. (I've never written a policy before, so be gentle.) Seemed that writing it, even in general form like this, was the least I could do to thank you for your hard work.--Mbear 17:43, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

Thanks a lot, Mbear: I appreciate it. Actually, if you want to helm up the initial discussion (as you have started), that would allow me to continue wrapping up the other policy work. I'd like to suggest you 'move' what you've started over to Policy Talk:Images. Also, while I will weigh in there, the discussion should not only be about code to be used but what images are allowed, attribution of images, etc. Think outside the box and realize that this policy is the 'one-stop shopping' for how BTW should handle images (in concert with already existing policies). Seriously, thanks for helming this. --Revanche ^{(talk|contribs)} 19:59, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

OK. I'll try to figure out something.--Mbear 20:10, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

Thanks a lot guys, for hammering out my Image idea, a really great work.Doneve 20:28, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

Random Act of Appreciation Award

Rev, for helping me understand the important of citations and references, particularly in context to the dreaded Level 3 tech of the Tactical Handbook, I award you the

How the heck have you not gotten this one until now? :) ClanWolverine101 04:15, 24 March 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, CW. And because no one trusts me, since I've never claimed any House affiliation. --Revanche ^{(talk|contribs)} 11:07, 24 March 2010 (UTC)

Removing something from your To Do list

Hi Rev, hope your having a good one. I wanted notify you little while ago, i accidently did one of your tasks you had put on your To Do list on your front page. To establish the Exoskeletons Category: Ailette, Tunnel Rat I, Tunnel Rat III, Gorilla. Exoskeleton category and Tunnel Rat I & III have been made. -- Wrangler 11:50, 24 March 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, Wrangler. No problem hitting my To Do list; a lot of those were done when I was one of the sole Editors here and trying to establish some content here. While its not likely I'll actually check that list too often, I'll keep it, to see if I can make my mark where needed (and thereby at least address my previous intentions). Have a good day. --Revanche ^{(talk|contribs)} 12:00, 24 March 2010 (UTC)

New Info Box Request

Hi Rev, I am fixing to do something differient but I'd like to have a new template made. As you know i don't know how to make such things. So Here what I'm requesting if you or someone else can make it. I'm requesting a infobox to made for Solaris Stables. Basic template would be basicly outline. I wish it to be layed out similarly to the way Stables are listed in Classic Battletech Mappacks source book for solaris. Infobox itself to have. Imagine, Name of Stable, Affiliation, Colors/badge, Units used; (this is where they put number mechs, number vehicles, aerospace fighters, and infantry/battle armor), Stable Experience / Rating. Then in main part of the template it would have, Stable description, Stable history, Notable Personnel, , Stable Master & Owners, Tactics and Style, Notes, Game Notes, then reference stuff and I would like category listed to be Category:Solaris_Stables. Which we DO have category for. If you can't, please let me know I'll continue project another way. Thank you! -- Wrangler 23:41, 25 March 2010 (UTC)

Wow...what an interesting concept. Sure, I can do that. Let me kick it around a bit, ok?--Revanche ^{(talk|contribs)} 03:08, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

Alrighty, then please let me know. I did only one stable which is actuall cooporative and i was looking at it thinking it would look good if figure out how get infobox made. Everytime I've tried, I've botched. Thanks Rev -- Wrangler 12:12, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

Also, to the above list i've added Stable Masters & Owners (like Officers in Military Regiments) since many these stables are sometimes centuries old. I'm sortof seperating the Stables from the cooporatives only because their run differiently, but for template don't worry about it. I will make note in category so when the template is done the person adding them will be able know (hopefully) what to do. Also, I've diliberately left out the year its founded or current year due to off and on nature of them. It can be listed in the history, some of the stables/cooperatives are don't have them since their centuries old. Please let me know how its going! -- Wrangler 13:27, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

Keep listing the ideas, as you develop them. I'll try to work on this on Sunday, when I should have more time uninterrupted. Based on your above statements, I'm thinking a QucikStart page would be helpful, too.--Revanche ^{(talk|contribs)} 16:06, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

Rev, I'd like to try to do this. It'd be a good way to get experience with infoboxes (like I mentioned earlier).--Mbear 16:18, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

Absolutely. We have no 'infobox' guy and I can't imagine why we'd want to restrict it to a few. Run with it! --Revanche ^{(talk|contribs)} 17:34, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

Problem and Have Question

Hello Rev, fellow Editor Doneve appears in have important imagine(s) from Historical: Operation Klondike. I'm not very good using the templates say mortiorium violation. I've done in past, but since there templates it didn't work out so well. Sure Doneve understand what i'm tying since i'm Grammer-challenged sometimes. -- Wrangler 14:01, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

In addition. I've found more imagines from Klondike. Doneve been rapidly trying improve articles. He added pictures to the major Clan leaders from the PDF version of the source book. I have added note to him. However, I'm not sure if he can communicate correctly what he doing wrong or judge what is something he has to wait on. -- Wrangler 15:05, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

Example link, please? --Revanche ^{(talk|contribs)} 16:08, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

On a totally unrelated note

Rev, I just ran across your comment on the Policy:Libel discussion page: "However, I'm not sure how to be all-inclusive and encyclopedic, but also vague." You can't be all-inclusive and vague at the same time. IMHO that's like trying to be pregnant and not pregnant simultaneously. --Mbear 14:19, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

Hey, Mbear: I think you meant Policy_Talk:Moratorium. Reading thru that, I think I said the same thing as you (i.e., they are mutually exclusive), but without using pregnancy or other venereal diseases as metaphors. --Revanche ^{(talk|contribs)} 16:14, 26 March 2010 (UTC)