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Peacekeeper

Hi Doneve. I am confused why you removed the RS:3085 Cutting the Edge wikilink from article. There was no information in the article violate the moratorium period. I don't believe mentioning the Record Sheet book would break moratorium if listed in the bibliography. -- Wrangler 20:42, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

I think, we don't put publications as biblio link, there have not the moratorium expired, some people where confused about this, it is my mention, but it is a good goal to start a discussion about this theme, thanks.--Doneve 20:53, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

Images

Doneve - Your image additions to my articles (like Vasily Cherenkoff) are always appreciated. Have a . Thanks! ClanWolverine101 19:50, 11 January 2011 (UTC)

Thanks.--Doneve 23:55, 11 January 2011 (UTC)

Infantry Infobox 2

Doneve, hold off on using the Infantry Infobox for a while. I'm still squishing bugs.--Mbear 16:34, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

No problem, i have other projects to finished, my intention was to bring at first a Infantry Unit Infobox, to sarna.net, thanks.--Doneve 16:37, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

Infantry infobox 3

OK. It's ready now.--Mbear 16:45, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

I've removed the Equipment row from the infobox per your request.--Mbear 20:11, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

Looking for an Image

Hey Doneve - In the Wolf Clan Sourcebook, there is a picture of an Atlas going down against some Elementals. This is the "death scene" of Selvin Kelswa, and I wanted to add it to his article. Might you have access to it? Thanks. ClanWolverine101 04:45, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

Hey ClanWolverine101, I find the picture and loaded it up => File:Oncemithymech.png. Enjoy it and have fun. Neuling 06:05, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

Thanks! ClanWolverine101 15:52, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

another infobox, please

Hey Doneve, tnx first for your great help by the development of the infantry infobox. With this fast success in mind another idea emerged from my mind. I will inlcude the data into a infobox

Weapon / Item
Cost
Availability
Introduced (Affiliation)
Extinction
Reintroduced (Affiliation)

In my opinion it will improve the knowledge of technology and how to use it. I know this would be a great task but you now my, how bigthe task i will do it until its finished. TNX Neuling 07:15, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

Verwenden Sie bitte die Statistiken im seitlichen Stab für Spielstatistiken wie Kosten, Verwendbarkeit, Rüstungsdurchgriff und Unterseitenschaden eher als, sie heraus im regelmäßigen Text habend. z.Z. versuchen wir, diese Funktion zu erhalten. Danke viel und haben Sie einen sehr guten Tag.--Cameron 05:41, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

Ich arbeite an der Rolle, die Spielversion, Richtungen für das Herstellen einer Seite unter Verwendung der Rolle spielt, die Spielstatistiken spielt, wie innen A Time of War auf gefunden werden kann Help:CreateInfantryWeaponArticle, lassen Sie mich wissen, was verbessert werden kann.--Cameron 05:41, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

References / Bio Pages

Hey Doneve - Why drop the references to bio pages? Example : Selvin Kelswa. The purpose of putting those up is to tell people that there is an actual bio on the character in that book and on that page. Is this policy? ClanWolverine101 03:39, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

Hy CW101, take a look on this Help:References, i want to bring all needed or missed references to one wiki standard, and put to needed setions the ref. notes.--Doneve 09:25, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

AHHHHH

Ahh, i lost all of my database yesterday, i works on sarna.net (and a total system interuption) occured, was this a sarna.net problem. Or may i was hacked, any thoughts, thanks.--Doneve 10:46, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

Doneve - I see messages on the front about the CBT forum? Maybe its that? Good luck! ClanWolverine101 02:51, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

Unit Game Notes boxes

Doneve - Love the new boxes! Never thought these should be treated as a separate topic. Have a . ClanWolverine101 02:53, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

Thanks ;).--Doneve 11:03, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

2010 Founders Awards

Doneve - While you've just been with us for over a year and a half, I am amazed by how much you've contributed to BTW in that time. 27613 Edits on 8886 pages? That's insane! Your fellow community members and I all appreciate your hard work and dedication to making BTW an excellent resource. I'm passing the Founder's Superior Editor of the Year Award to you this year. Thanks! Nicjansma 06:16, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

Thanks a lot, Nic.--Doneve 13:26, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the catch

Thanks for adding the citations marker to the MechWarrior article. I meant to add it but forgot Wookiebear 18:43, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

Vandal Cop award

Good morning, Doneve. Slaving away feverishly, as always, I see! Thanks for catching that 2nd act of vandalism/spam this morning. In recognition, I'd like to award you your 2nd Vandal Cop award.

I've already added the bronze oak leaf to your awards board. Thanks! --Revanche ^{(talk|contribs)} 12:09, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

Thanks Rev.--Doneve 22:14, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

Thank you

Thanks for finding that picture of Jeffrey Calderon. Here is a Random Act of Appreciation for the find, the fix and for making the article better Wookiebear 13:36, 12 February 2011 (UTC)

Thanks Wookiebear.--Doneve 13:37, 12 February 2011 (UTC)

Request

Hey my friend, how can we communicate in real time like icq our such thinks, because I have questions to you and I will talk also. Neuling 11:44, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

Kester Hsiun Chi Image

Hey Doneve - Got a Kester Hsiun Chi pic for me? He should be in the old House Kurita sourcebook. Thanks! ClanWolverine101 01:13, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

Hy, sorry i have only the pdf version, with no pictures.--Doneve 15:49, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

Moratorium for TRO 3085 supplemental

Hey Doneve, can you tell me if the moratorium time for the TRO 3085 supplemental is over? Neuling 15:44, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

Hy Neuling, the moratorim has expired today, 15 February 2011.--Doneve 15:46, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

Project Infantry Weapons

vonBabelfish - englisch zum Deutche - ich sprecht & fursteh eine clinne bissen deutche

Da es nur drei gibt - vier von uns arbeitend an infantry Waffen, (Sie und Neuling sind das aktivste), wird es vorgeschlagen, dass Sie Ihren Namen hinzufügen Project Infantry Weapons#Members--Cameron 19:51, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

Since there are only three - four of us working on infantry weapons, (you and Neuling are the most active) it is suggested that you add your name to Project Infantry Weapons#Members--Cameron 19:51, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

Canon Maps

Hi Doneve, hope your doing well. I recently noticed edited canon maps that were originally produced by Øystein Tvedten. I realize your modifing these maps, please still credit the artist who produced them. The sourcebook clearly credits Mr. Tvedten as being only Map maker in the book. I've all added the notes to these modified map images, that they are edited, not quite the original. I've also added missing category info. I'm sorry if sound rude, but please make sure you keep adding categories, artist info, regardless if its modified. Its not quite fandom, but its still should be noted you changed picture. If you think i'm wrong, please ask one the administrators about this. Take care -- Wrangler 03:58, 20 February 2011 (UTC)

No you are not wrong, thanks for your catch.--Doneve 21:58, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

Skye Maps

Hi Doneve, what do you think about the gains and loses of the province over the years? I think it is helpful to know which planets are former territory and was reconquered over the centuries from the DCMS/FWLM. Neuling 13:46, 20 February 2011 (UTC)

Very good idea, but please talk to ClanWolverine what he think about this, if you put the info in the Federation of Skye article, or you create a new article, then we linking it to the proper page.--Doneve 13:57, 20 February 2011 (UTC)

Neuling - Certainly, that sort of perspective is a minor drawback to cropping the maps, but cropping gives you a better sense of the growth of the district itself. The original maps, of course, are snap shots taken immediately following each Succession War. As to the Federation, I have a convo going on Talk:Isle of Skye that I think starts to address that issue. ClanWolverine101 14:52, 20 February 2011 (UTC)

Opinions

Hey Doneve, I will discuss 2 opinions with. First what is your opinion to my rework with the tables and Second can you please give me a resaon why you don't anwser me. I think I had novething doing wrong or exits other reasons that are anknown to me... Neuling 14:14, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

Notes within References

Evening, Doneve: I thought I'd share this example with you regarding references, since -like me- you do a lot of corrective edits to references. In this case, we have the source title in italics, comma, page number, comma, source article title in "quotations". The source article title is copied exactly as it is used in the source material. If notes by the member are added to the reference, we put in a colon (:) and then the note. No periods (.) are used to finish it off. Does that make sense?--Revanche ^{(talk|contribs)} 21:59, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

Hy Revanche, good catch, i agree with you, and i think we can use it.--Doneve 22:08, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

Great, thanks!--Revanche ^{(talk|contribs)} 22:36, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

Variants + Brigades

Hey Doneve, thnaks for such kind words. Please take a look at the Marauder - page and to the DCMS - page and give my your Oinion about it. Neuling 12:09, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

Hy ich hab mir die seiten angeschaut, gefällt mir sehr sehr gut, mal schaun was Revanche und Mbear zu den Mech seiten sagen, wiegesagt sehr sehr gut arbeit :).--Doneve 12:11, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

Danke, ich hätte nie gedacht das meine arbeit solche Auswirkungen hätte. Vorallem der zuspruch ist überwältigend. Hast du vielleicht noch Ideen wo diese Tabellen anwenden könnte?Neuling 12:13, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

Also erstens, finde ich die tabellen haben grosse auswirkenungen in der Manufacturing Centers section, die seiten wirken cleaner und aufgeräumter, zweitens beende doch erstmal die ganzen House seiten wie du es beim Draconis Combine gemacht hast, und dann ist da noch die Planets section, da gibt es auch sehr viel zu tun, und drittens ich mach mir mal danken wo wir die tabellen noch gebrauchen können!--Doneve 12:19, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

Planet rewrites

Doneve, have we established consensus on replacing the Owner History section of planets with a single column table? I thought we weren't doing that.--Mbear 17:40, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

No, there was no consensus, i forgot it, i stard it on the WikiProject Planet page, sorry.--Doneve 17:48, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

No problem. Just wanted to be sure that we were all on the same page.--Mbear 18:14, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

Owner History CSS

Doneve,

I need your help testing something. Please paste this CSS code in your Custom CSS file.

Your custom CSS file can be found by clicking the My Preferences link, selecting Skin and then clicking the Custom CSS link next to your selected theme. Edit the page by following the link, then paste this code in there.

/* This is a CSS comment. It will be ignored by the parser.*/
/* Find an unordered list inside a DIV tag that has a CSS class of ownerhistory. */
div.ownerhistory ul 
{
	border-width:1px;
	border-style:solid;
	border-color:#000;/* this is set via hexidecimal values, but can use RGB as well. See http://www.w3schools.com/css/css_colors.asp */
	width:250px;
}

/* Modify the items in the unordered list contained in the DIV tag with CSS class ownerhistory. */
div.ownerhistory ul li 
{
	/* Remove the bullets */
	list-style-type:none;
	/*Set up border*/
	border-width:1px;
	border-style:solid;
	border-color:#000;/* this is set via hexidecimal values, but can use RGB as well. See http://www.w3schools.com/css/css_colors.asp */
	
	/* center the text */
	text-align:center;
	
	/* close the gaps between list items (If this isn't here, you get weird white spaces between the list items */
	margin:0;
	
	/* 
	If the cells are too "tight" around the text, uncomment these lines to give the text more "breathing room."
	I've specified the sides individually here so you can tweak to your preferences. (To uncomment just remove the / * and * / from the lines below
	*/
	
	/*padding-top: 2px;*/
	/*padding-right: 2px;*/
	/*padding-bottom: 2px;*/
	/*padding-left:2px;*/
}

Now visit the Shiloh page. You should see the Owner History section in a pseudo-table format.--Mbear 12:11, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

Hy Mbear, thanks for the code, it works, please can you change the box colour, then we have the same colour like the nearby planets table,thanks. --Doneve 12:38, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

To change the color, just open the CSS file you created earlier and replace the #000 with #aaa.--Mbear 12:56, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

OK. Now for part 2. On each planet, you'll need to add some code so the CSS knows to apply itself. Go to a planet page and find the Owner History section. Put this line between the Owner History section and the first item in the list:

<div class="ownerhistory">

at the end of the list, put a closing div tag, like this:

</div>

That markup, combined with the CSS I provided, should give you the formatting you're looking for without disrupting the presentation for other users.

And if you'd let Neuling know about this, I'd appreciate it.--Mbear 12:54, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

Okidoky, i talk to Neuling about the CSS code.--Doneve 13:11, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

Ok i change the colour code in the CSS code, but it don't work, where is my failur.--Doneve 13:46, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

What part are you trying to change? The outer border of the list or the lines between each entry in the list?--Mbear 15:28, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

I changed the border and lines!--Doneve 15:32, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

Is that what you want? Or do you...OK. Nevermind. Just remember this:

To change the border update the div.ownerhistory ul border-color value.

To change the lines between items update the div.ownerhistory ul li border-color value.

That should do it.--Mbear 16:49, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

I changed the border colour to border-color:#D0D0D0 in the code, it don't works, i see allways the white style you are added in your CSS code.

Thnx for your information, I will think about it seriously.Neuling 14:53, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

Composition History

Hey, will the changes include the entire military commands or only the DCMS? Neuling 16:31, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

The complete military commands section :).--Doneve 16:34, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

How can I support your effort?Neuling 16:36, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

I make at the moment CSS code experiments, and i think i finished on next day (plus, minus), i wan't to upload on next day a test page, I talke to you when i finished it.--Doneve 16:41, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

TO&E

Hey Doneve,please take a look a my latest article LCAF Military Assets‎and give my a response. Neuling 22:50, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

Unite Emblems

Doneve - Was hoping you could help me with these guys: 7th Lyran Regulars and 15th Lyran Regulars. Hoping their crests are in your database. :) ClanWolverine101 05:08, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

Planetary coords/Teamspam IS Atlas

I must say I am not very happy about the IS Atlas being linked as a reference for system coords. For one, it is not a canonical source and should not be made up to be one. It is just a meta-source. Also, I feel that references should link to an article on this wiki about whatever the reference source is, not to an external data repository. Just sayin'. :) Frabby 11:43, 10 March 2011 (UTC)

I know, i revamp at the moment the nearby planets with a wikitable, and removed the IS Atlas links.--Doneve 11:50, 10 March 2011 (UTC)

Castle Brian

Please take a look at the Castle Brian article and give me a short response about the tables what can be better or it is sufficient enough? Neuling 18:20, 13 March 2011 (UTC)

Hy, very nice, the tables looks good, and i see the CSS works very well :).--Doneve 18:35, 13 March 2011 (UTC)

Zeta Battalion

Hey Doneve - got a Unit Logo for Zeta Battalion? :) ClanWolverine101 05:28, 20 March 2011 (UTC)

Request for factions

Hey Mbear, I have a questions about the different factions an their unique equipment availability. I think it is useful to mark every variant with icons or something this way to know how has access to the machines. And could we expande the space between the variant to see where the beginning is and where the end. Neuling 19:22, 22 March 2011 (UTC)

Neuling, I think that's what the categories are for at the bottom of the unit pages. If a faction is listed, it has access to the 'Mech. A 'Mech with no factions listed is available to everyone.

Wait, I just re-read what you wrote. OK. So an example of your proposal would be putting a small Federated Suns logo in front of those variants listed as being a Federated Suns unit? Ummm...adding an icon to every variant is going to be a big task, and possibly discourage contributions from new editors.--Mbear 19:56, 22 March 2011 (UTC)

Hy Mbear, i read this and i like the idea of Neuling, i would do this (give me the icons), and the hughe task can started.--Doneve 21:24, 22 March 2011 (UTC)

Well, there are two problems with your request Doneve:

Consensus has not been reached (as far as I know). Neuling, please make your suggestion on the Project BattleMechs Talk page so others can contribute.
I don't have icon images yet. Until consensus is reached, I'm not going to make them. (I'll wait until I know the project has accepted the idea before making them.)--Mbear 01:16, 23 March 2011 (UTC)

Military Project

Hey Doneve, please give my a short response to the forces overview of the discussion site of the military project. The DCMS table include the entier available forces deployment from housebook kurita (3025), war of 3039 (3040), 20 years update (3050), objectiv raids (3054), field manual dcms (3059), field manual updates (3067) and field report dcms. I think it is useful to see the developement of the dcms through the different time periods and when I counted right the Kanrei have only 30 regiments left at the end of the Jihad. The war had begun with 68 regiments. Neuling 21:23, 27 March 2011 (UTC)

Hy Neuling, give me a while to check out this, and how we can meet the wiki standard, thanks.--Doneve 21:30, 27 March 2011 (UTC)

Banshee Test

I have done the ref work but what is the best place for this kind of information. The manufacturer side is not the best because many variants are only field refits or individual modifications. Neuling 20:48, 28 March 2011 (UTC)

Share Knowledge

Hey Doneve, exit away that you can share your knowledge about the solaris vii stables with me. Please give me a response.... Neuling 20:04, 29 March 2011 (UTC)

PDF "Covers"

I see you've been adding "cover" images for BattleCorps files. Hm. I appreciate your zeal, but really... what do we need these for? BC stories have little if any artwork, and these images certainly aren't any notable cover art. Frabby 17:53, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

Hy Frabby, ok i stop it, i think it was good idea!--Doneve 17:56, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

I wouldn't (and couldn't) forbid you to do this if you want, but I don't think there is any point in making up plain text covers by copying the first page when there simply is no cover art. The simple fact is that BattleCorps doesn't have cover art for its stories. 07:28, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

Formating

Hey, I recogize that some users have difficults with the capitals in my latest post. I will rework this with in the next days. Because of the references I will also explaine for what the terms stands for and as a side note. Many of the technology sites like Ferro-Fibrous have in the first postet table no references only the later addition include them. I will increase the quality of my work in the future. See ya next time... Neuling 20:59, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

Hy thanks for your response, i contact you on next day, and give you my new icq ID, then we can talk in german, i wish you a good night.--Doneve 21:39, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

More Thanks

My fan based article had not been up for more than two minutes and you had already fixed a typo. It's nice to know at least ONE person has read the page. : ) I have you an assistance appreciated award for it.

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